Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (WestSlope) — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:32:13 GMT

Berry Point.... you're the winner of the best post award for this thread!!!

This thread is continued here.

THE END

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (Berry Point) — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:00:28 GMT

Great story Ken. It gets better every time I hear it and Quashnet, I'm sure the smell on that fish is as far gone as his jump.

Here, I'll take a stab. This thread is continued here.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (greendrake ll) — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:42:17 GMT

Ken, I've said it before,I'll say it again "You are one sick puppy"

Quash, The fish died because as beautiful as your St Georges are, The winder thingy is on the wrong side!!!!

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (quashnet) — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:30:27 GMT
I hooked this fish when the discussion started. It was pretty exciting at first, but after a while he stopped jumping.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (SnooKen) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:46:06 GMT
The end of a hot dry July in the deepest South. A traveling salesman is driving a seemingly endless dust-choked back road. The air conditioner in his car broke the day before and he drives with the windows down, his throat so parched that it hurts to swallow. After several hours of seemingly endless alternations of withered corn fields and pulpwood pine plantings he spots a small farmhouse on a knoll rising above the road. He pulls over at the rusted mailbox, parks his vehicle and walks up to...

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:51:08 GMT

creakycane wrote:
All other things being about equal, a longer rod gives the fish a mechanical advantage over being played by a similar shorter rod.
A light in a sea of darkness.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:48:43 GMT
I'm quite surprised by so many responses regarding so much import regarding long rods and tippet size with no reference at all to reel quality. Where did all the math majors go regarding length of levers, arcs,etc. With the proper reel you can point a short [or long] rod right at a fish with 6x and play it right off the reel.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:24:17 GMT

creakycane wrote:
All other things being about equal, a longer rod gives the fish a mechanical advantage over being played by a similar shorter rod.
Make it a fine leader over 9' in length, and the pendulum swings back in favor of the long rod. Overall, I say it's a push....

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:09:44 GMT
All other things being about equal, a longer rod gives the fish a mechanical advantage over being played by a similar shorter rod.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (SnooKen) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:35:28 GMT

16 pmd: "Killing fish with overplaying has little or nothing to do with the length of the rod...................it's the angler that kills the fish"

Exactly!

(Good try, Quash but if I can't kill this thread I'm afraid there may be no choice but to call in the Moderinator)

Ken
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Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (quashnet) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:44:06 GMT
Trolling with bait used to be a popular technique, but the fish are no longer biting.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (16 pmd) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:42:35 GMT

tim simbari wrote:
We might also try and remember a very important fact. With the rise of catch and release fishing becoming so popular, combined with growing understanding of reasonable fish "playing" there is one issue without too much disagreement, many if not most of these longer rods are quite simply fish killers.

My experience leads me to disagree strongly with Tim's statement above....

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (bobbeegee) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:24:25 GMT

tim simbari wrote:
We might also try and remember a very important fact. With the rise of catch and release fishing becoming so popular, combined with growing understanding of reasonable fish "playing" there is one issue without too much disagreement, many if not most of these longer rods are quite simply fish killers.

I've always been under the impression that the opposite is expounded, in...

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (HERMES2069) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:21:51 GMT

Try landing a 12" rainbow, on a size 24 Midge, tied to a 8x or 9x tippet.
A 7'-6' 4wt. helps control loosing or netting.
Phil

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:41:41 GMT
We might also try and remember a very important fact. With the rise of catch and release fishing becoming so popular, combined with growing understanding of reasonable fish "playing" there is one issue without too much disagreement, many if not most of these longer rods are quite simply fish killers.

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (oysterbamboo) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:53:40 GMT

creakycane wrote:
I believe the activity by many excellent and talented high-tech builders to build light, hollow, sometimes even epoxy-laden long, light-line rods out of tonkin bears witness to the state of things....

It is an interesting phenomenon. A bit like saying "I really appreciate fine Scotch... with cranberry juice and Ginger Ale"!

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (pcg) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:43:19 GMT
David, thanks for redirecting the "long rod" discussion. My original pro-long rod comment was in reference to Salmon & Steelhead fishing. Somehow it got turned on its head. In contrast, all of my trout work is using 7.5 & 8-foot cane or graphite rods. It's worth noting that very few steelheaders use anything shorter than 9-foot. And if they do, they usually regret the decision if they catch a memorable fish. Or regret the decision when their 8-foot rod beats them up. Or...

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (David Dornblaser) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:43:02 GMT
I know that the auction that started this thread was an unique confluence of rods, rod making personalities, and other unique circumstances. As a relative cane newbie I was hoping that this thread would have morphed in a different direction - more discussion on what determines who is a collectible or notable modern rod builder. I suspect that that conversation would be educational for us relative newbies as well as highly entertaining.

It's interesting that the question of...

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (troutist) — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:58:20 GMT
Hey, what happened? We started talking about quads and I kept reading and reading and waiting and waiting to get to the end to make my comment, then we are onto length of rods....well, I'll make my comment anyway. Was surprised that no one mentioned Tim Zietak when the discussion was on quads. Tim does really nice work with his quads - Rich( Bow River) and I both have rods ordered. He also is great with repairs. That is why when my 801510 Dickerson needed a little work, it only went to...

Re: Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:54:42 GMT
I believe the activity by many excellent and talented high-tech builders to build light, hollow, sometimes even epoxy-laden long, light-line rods out of tonkin bears witness to the state of things.... These makers are trying to imitate the long. light line, well designed graphite rods we are lucky enough to have since the 70's (why? because they are excellent fishing/casting tools - the best we have over 8').

Brandin Rod on an unmentionable site

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:08:27 GMT

130262441856 Item Number

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