Terenzio Grease

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:10:20 GMT

I'm curious about the performance of the Terenzio dressing compared to Mucilin. Anyone have experience with both?

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (RonT1) — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:49:18 GMT

Perhaps now we will see some of the nasty Terenzio floatant show up on the F/S/T forum......ya' think?
R

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (krautcaster) — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:57:41 GMT

Steve,

thanks a bunch for posting that link. Seems I will have to look into this a bit further.
Many thanks again for this insight.

Cheers,
Andy

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (sevilla315) — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:08:23 GMT

Andy, just what I read. As to its accuracy... http://www.silkflylines.com/index.php?care

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (krautcaster) — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:07:20 GMT

I would be VERY much surprised if Phoenix lines were dressed with a synthetic varnish. I re-dressed a silk line with linseed oil after stripping down the old varnish and the finish I got looks EXACTLY like on a Phoenix line. So, my bet would be that the Phoenix lines are either also done with Linseed oil or with something very close.

Cheers,
Andy

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (sevilla315) — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:28:05 GMT

Marco, yes I read somewhere that Mike has a synthetic varnish on the Phoenix. Someone should produce a silk care book, for all the different manufacturers, because what's good for one is evidently not good for another (Terenzio et al)! Thanks again and Cheers, Steve

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:15:14 GMT

mog wrote:
"Have you actually re-varnished a rod after using a silicon cleaner?"

Yes, Geary, I re-varnished some rods after using a silicon cleaner without any problems.
But furthermore, after 3 coats of varnish on new blank, I happened to find little "fisheyes" once the work was finished. Hence I had to use a sand paper 1000 and give another coat of varnish.
Now, between one...

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (mog) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:05:38 GMT

"Have you actually re-varnished a rod after using a silicon cleaner?"

Yes, Geary, I re-varnished some rods after using a silicon cleaner without any problems.
But furthermore, after 3 coats of varnish on new blank, I happened to find little "fisheyes" once the work was finished. Hence I had to use a sand paper 1000 and give another coat of varnish.
Now, between one coat of varnish and the next one, after the previous one dried up, I clean with the...

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (sevilla315) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:08:00 GMT

Marco, thank you that is very helpful, and actually what I did. Curiously the Phoenix instructions say to clean their line after off season storage with a cloth moistened with turps, but it does have a very different coating. Cheers

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:31:02 GMT

Marco, I really appreciate your response. I've known about the silicon cleaners used by auto painters but didn't know if it was a product suitable for use on bamboo. Have you actually re-varnished a rod after using a silicon cleaner?

Thanks, Geary

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (mog) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:32:40 GMT

Hello,
for 6 years now, I have been using Terenzio Zandri's lines with the grease that Terenzio provides with his lines. I never had problems with the varnish. I suggest to my customers to use his dressing grease for his lines.
As to the silicone and the varnish problem, this is not a problem actually.
The silicone has a neutral behaviour with the materials it comes in contact, otherwise it would not be extensively used in the medical field, consequently it cannot damage...

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:07:12 GMT

I've asked one of the dealers about it and did not get a definitive answer. I bought a used Terenzio line from Chris Carlin (Far North Rod Smiths), and he told me it contains silicon. If there's any doubt, I wouldn't use it on a line intended for a bamboo rod. As mentioned, the issue is the potential problems when refinishing a rod.

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (weightforward) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:04:46 GMT

Check with J.D. Wagner Rods. They build rods and sell the line.

Dave

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (Marty) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:30:48 GMT

I have a Terenzio line that I have fished for one season and used his supplied dressing. No issues of anykind. I have a phoenix on which I use mucillin but I figure if Terenzio makes the lines and suggests his dressing its what I am going to use. Not sure what it is but it is an entirely different consistency than mucillin for sure.

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:45:05 GMT

I don't know for sure, Pete. But it sure looks, feels and smells like it enough that I won't use it.

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (pmag) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:14:24 GMT

seattlesetters wrote:
It looks and feels like silicone to me. I don't use it as a result.

Do you know it contains silicone or is it a guess? I hate to throw it away.

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (mtn) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:23:03 GMT

Correct Ron, My major concern with silicone is on the rod if any varnish work is to be performed. If you've ever had the displeasure of encountering it with varnish you'll see what I mean, I have. Be careful using any type of solvent on you silk line, I'd ask the seller/maker before using anything or at the least test a small area. You also might just try cleaning it up with Albolene before switching to Mucilin, at the end of the season I clean my lines with it. I used...

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (RonT1) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:43:52 GMT

I vaguely recall an old thread where it was established that the damage isn't to the finish immediately, but on any "if and when" redo is required. Silicone evidently contributes to "fisheyes" on the surface coat.
I'm not worried about it....I use the supplied Terenzio floatant on my Terenzio lines and Red Mucillin on my NOS and refurb silks.
r

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:15:44 GMT

sevilla315 wrote:
Ok, I googled this. It's white spirit, used to take paint off brushes? Will this damage the finish of the silk line? What is the harm if I just leave it in and put Mucilin over it? I guess it can't harm the line, otherwise Terenzio wouldn't ship the grease with his lines. Cheers again

It's not so much that silicone harms the line, many believe it may harm the finish on bamboo rods....

Re: Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (joaniebo) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:42:31 GMT

I have four Terenzio silk lines obtained a couple years ago. When I first got them, I rubbed in a couple coats of the Terenzio grease and then fished the lines. Since then, I've used EITHER the Terenzio line grease or Thebault line grease when I've recoated the lines and I've never removed the old Terenzio grease before applying the Thebault line grease. Have had no problems with either of the products.

Cheers and Safe Fishing

Bob

Terenzio Grease

feeds@yuku.com (sevilla315) — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:03:27 GMT

Anyone here with a Terenzio use the grease he supplies? How does it compare to Mucilin? I broke in a Phoenix recently with the Red Mucilin which is a hard waxy consistency. The Terenzio grease is like rubbing in a sticky Vicks Vaporub! Thanks, Steve