Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (gofish60) — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:34:37 GMT

NCCav
Actually, I'd try the Banty with a 4wt or even a 5wt to start. At two ounces with that length, it's probably a pretty fast rod and will need a little weight to load.
Nice rod, BTW.
gofish

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bobbeegee) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:01:10 GMT

nccavalier wrote:
Hi Jim

Doesn't seem to have much flex in it. Carl

That's not surprising.

Bob

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nccavalier) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:11:17 GMT

Thanks for the kind words, Paul. I've taken lots of pictures of it, but I didn't want to post all of them and take up everybody's space here. I have not fished a rod this short, and I am a little apprehensive about it. At the same Lang's Auction, I also picked up a Summers Midge that was 5'6", and so maybe I'll take that one out first for its maiden voyage and try my hand at casting it, so I don't do a disservice to this Payne.
I wonder what line I...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (canesterdf) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:31:35 GMT

NC, That rod is cute beyond words. Take a bunch of pictures for your archive before you fish with it. I have seen quite a few over the years but never that model. Could be that someone wanted a Banty which is usually 4'4" but with a little more length. The extremely short rods have a pretty short casting cycle and demand excellent timing by the caster. Go easy on yourself because unless you are really used to rods that short there will probably be a learning curve! Congrats on a very...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (webcay) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:31:45 GMT

I see NC's Banty has a 56510 on the tag, Does anyone know the reasoning behind his numbering system???

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nccavalier) — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:39:20 GMT

Will
Thanks for the post. Don't know much Payne history, so that is good to know. Acquired it at Lang's auction not too long ago sight unseen......and was hoping I wasn't going to be dissapointed when it arrived, and I wasn't. Billed by Lang's as unfished, but who knows. Can't attest to the rarity of it, but I still intend to take it out on the water this spring. Any other history would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Carl

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (greendrake ll) — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:58:07 GMT

Carl,
Do you know if that rod is a 1 off ? Previous to this I've seen 3 Payne bantys and every one of them was 4'4". I've never heard even a mention of one at 5'4" until seeing your post.I'd be willing to bet that might be one of the rarest Paynes still around.
Will

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nccavalier) — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:50:52 GMT

Hi Jim

Had not had a chance to fish it....just acquired not too long ago. Doesn't seem to have much flex in it. Will probably try it out this spring on all our western NC small brookie streams.

Carl

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (wefishcane) — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:40:53 GMT

nc,
I've never handled a rod that short. Is it a practical tool or simply an addition to a collection? Have you fished it?
Jim

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nccavalier) — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:12:17 GMT

My Payne Bandy rod for your viewing pleasure.

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (Bones) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:09:35 GMT

As I searched thru the threads, I found this exact question in another topic and with excellent answers...so thanks in advance, no need for revisiting my question...dj

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nwdlj) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:18:39 GMT

This is a great thread as it lies in the heart of a question that I have been asking myself and couldn't really answer. One of the reasons why I read here all the time...I had decided not to buy a rod made by the greats, i.e. a Payne or a PWY et al, as I knew I would be uncomfortable with fishing it, not necessarily because of the monetary value, but mainly because they are significant pieces of history that are truly irreplaceable. I fish production rods just fine, Heddon's etc but...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (canesterdf) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:13:33 GMT

I have met George a few times at Lang's He is a very nice gentleman and a superb rod finisher. I always let someone hold my wallet when I visit his table it keeps me safe from the Bamboo Siren's singing...Best,Paul

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (thegubster) — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:55:33 GMT

A Payne 195 copy.

A 7 1/2' 3/2 3wt Hal Bacon blank finished out by Geo. Guba. Wonderful little rod for spring creek trout! It's been up before.

I might sell her after this year. I'm a hurting unit 'bout now. Time'll tell. It won't be a fun thing to do.

...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (canesterdf) — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:35:36 GMT

Great Rods Men, This is the stuff that should fill our board! especially Large thanks for the stories behind the rods, and those taking the time to share photos. Piglegs which arm do you want for that rod and how many from my harem? Your will is my command, beautiful,just beautiful......I purchased many years ago for 325- a Payne 98, finished by Dave Decker who was rodmaker in the shop after Jim died as I recall. All the blanks at that time were made by Jim then and finished by Decker for...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (Soft Hackle) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:12:33 GMT

Certainly not an original , but a Hal Bacon blank finished out by George Guba on a Payne 97 taper. I would love to compare it to an original as I have the feeling it is very close in look and feel, although George used walnut rather than Spanish cedar for the insert.

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:35:18 GMT

I was always curious if there is a difference in Payne rods over the Years...For example: are all PAYNE 101's the same... was one year group better than another... was their a particuliar period when they drifted away from what made them great.

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (ddnester) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:18:28 GMT

Other then aesthetics and overall remarkable appearance of Payne rods , the reason Paynes are so admired by fisherman , is their Ferrule fit. All bamboo rods I own are at times difficult to to separate. Never, never with a Payne . I leave them assembled for days at a time, sitting in my cars rod rack , ferrules always separate without difficulty. Leonard rods are a distant second choice for ferrule fit..Most modern makers rods do a remarkable...

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (fishaboo) — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:49:36 GMT

Jim:

Thanks for the description. Now I have to find myself a Payne 101 replica this year to try out (the real thing is too expensive...).

Sam.

Re: Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (wefishcane) — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:10:22 GMT

Sam,
While both the 101 and 197 have been described as five weight rods, the actions of each are significant different. The 101 has a faster taper and is well suited to the fishing I do here in the intermountain West. I would consider the 197 a full flexing rod that feels like it could throw either a four or five weight line. However, I have yet to put a line on the rod so I'll have a better idea when the snow leaves and I can try it out. I would agree that the 101 is an exceptional...

Jim Payne Bamboo Fly Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bobbeegee) — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:58:33 GMT

As Mr. Payne appears to have won out in the "Who was the best bamboo rodbuilder" thread, I was hopeful the owners of his rods
could post some pictures of same so we could see why he is so well respected and collected.

Any accompanying text as to how you acquired the rod, how it fishes, whatever you wish to tell us about your particular rod or rods would be welcomed.

Kind of a homage from the folks who today still understand and appreciate...