Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (orange caddis) — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:08:10 GMT

docbluedevil wrote:

My wife can't understand my infatuation for these older Jeep Grand Wagoneers; she thinks they're ugly. IMO, they're gorgeous.

Oh yeah, I think Hardy Perfects are quite attractive as well. But more importantly, they are buttery smooth and super reliable.

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Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (docbluedevil) — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:40:09 GMT

My wife can't understand my infatuation for these older Jeep Grand Wagoneers; she thinks they're ugly. IMO, they're gorgeous.

Oh yeah, I think Hardy Perfects are quite attractive as well. But more importantly, they are buttery smooth and super reliable.

And the Winston Perfects top the Hardys, imo.

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:34:17 GMT

I believe your fillings fall out if you fire those cannons.

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Flyman615) — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:31:57 GMT

Stuka drivers definitely had big ones...bombs that is. Nice photo, Joe.

Regards,
Flyman

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Shoeless Joe) — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:46:29 GMT

Flyman615 wrote:

Shoeless Joe wrote:
...I suppose the same can be said for aesthetics, cause folks do like what they like and as such, it's understandable that some might perceive Perfects to be uglier than a day-old goat.

Kind of like an old P-51 jockey evaluating an A-10 Warthog? They are, after all,...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Flyman615) — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:38:16 GMT

Shoeless Joe wrote:
...I suppose the same can be said for aesthetics, cause folks do like what they like and as such, it's understandable that some might perceive Perfects to be uglier than a day-old goat.

Kind of like an old P-51 jockey evaluating an A-10 Warthog? They are, after all, ugly...but "well hung"!
However, if a recalcitrant tank is your immediate...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (MFRS) — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:51:22 GMT

I will try and answer CBO's question. This looks like the 1917-21 Hardy Perfect, collectable no matter what condition, for use or collection. These reels are rare and in this small size, captures the largest number of light gear Hardy fisherman's/collectors interest and being a Perfect model, and a spin-off from the original Perfect commands top dollar.

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (CBO) — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:07:40 GMT

I really like this type of reels, I don't have any Hardy Perfects anymore but I do have a small collection of Bougles.

Rest of the message removed, I had a genuine question and didn't mean to offend or cause any problems...
CBO

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (FWdB) — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:49:31 GMT

PYochim wrote:
I don't think Hardy reels age well, as opposed to the Dingley and other reels. For my purposes, there is a difference between time honored wear and tear as opposed to "used and abused".

Abused is abused, no difference between Hardy and Dingley there. My brass faced Salmon Perfect is 109 years old, is well used, has the most beautiful smooth patina, but is very well looked after and it shows!

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Shoeless Joe) — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:50:50 GMT

PYochim wrote:
I don't think Hardy reels age well, as opposed to the Dingley and other reels.

Excellent observation, PY ... I mean, I have put 7,000-plus rounds downrange with my primary concealed-carry piece, a Chantilly-era HK P7M8 and just like those Hardy reels, it also hasn't aged well ... as opposed to my other six P7s, which by the way, are unfired safe-queens ...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (dblspey) — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:49:17 GMT

Very well put, Joe. The history behind the development of these wonderful examples of reel making art will keep the legions of admirers dedicated to their preservation, and use.

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Shoeless Joe) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:13:15 GMT

Flyman615 wrote:
... * A given--the best fly reels in the world have traditionally been made in England ... * The older the Perfect is, the better they are ...

With all due respect, I suppose that all depends on one's working definition of the terms, 'best' & 'better' ... and I suppose the same can be said for aesthetics, cause folks do like what they like and as such, it's...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (Flyman615) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:24:05 GMT

As an owner of too many fly reels of too many styles to count (and keep hidden from my wife), here's what you are indeed misssing when it comes to Hardy Perfects:

* A given--the best fly reels in the world have traditionally been made in England.
* The Perfect is a classic design and, to these eyes at least, looks GREAT on any fly rod.
* The Perfect balances cane fly rods well...perfectly.
* The Perfect's operation is smooth and...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (orange caddis) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:08:08 GMT

PYochim wrote:
I don't understand why these reels (and others) command the prices they do, being in the weathered condition that they are in. I have sold a few reels on the secondary market, all in very good condition. I just don't see how the "Perfect" in "less than perfect" condition commands the price that it does.

it's simple they are "Perfect"

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (flysupplies) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:22:39 GMT

> What am I missing?

If you are like the rest of us, a couple or 3 screws.

If not, then you certainly are "screwed" (grin).

Bob

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (tedgolden) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:05:15 GMT

What am I missing?

Mystic potency!

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (voodoofly) — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:16:10 GMT

bamb00zler wrote:
What am I missing?

Mojo

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (OnlyTrout) — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:49:42 GMT

I don't own a Perfect yet - but I will because of all the great things people say about them fighting fish. But regarding their looks, I think they are simple elegence in a fly reel and look great on cane. Jbarnice is correcct about the disc drag reels in that you don't need all that drag (bad for tippits). Mostly though disc drags are not fun to fish (just my opinion) because pulling out line all day is a pain in the ass. I have been getting rid of all my disc drag reels and...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (jbarnick) — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:01:17 GMT

I love the looks of the perfect. The fancy "S handle" reels look nice as well, but I believe they only belong on a salmon rig (ah-la bogdan), and living in Montana, I don't exactly go salmon fishing very often. The exposed spool for thumbing additional drag is really nice since there is no worries about hooking your thumb on a handle. I really detest the whole "performance" argument for newer reels. Who cares that you have an infinitely adjustment drag with low...

Re: What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:56:18 GMT

Thanks Wilf, as I said, I sold that reel almost 3 years ago now, and it wasn't easy.
I have seen only one nicer SB perfect, and it was a mint, boxed example.
They were only made a few years before the war.

fishing my St. George and Tonka Queen last year, I hooked up a 25-lb. black buffalo. It porpoised for 10 minutes straight - it looked like a Samsonite - and made two trips into the backing before coming unhooked. I was delighted with the whole experience and would...

What am I missing regarding Perfects?

feeds@yuku.com (bamb00zler) — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:19:37 GMT

IMHO, they're ugly. Virtually everyone here has a woody on for Hardy Perfects. I've tried my darndest to warm up to them and fail to see the appeal. I'll take an S-handled reel such as a Bogdan, a Robichaud, a Peerless or similar such reel any day over a Perfect. What am I missing?