Thramer - payne 101 clone

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Eric Peper) — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:14:01 GMT

OnlyTrout wrote:

Eperous wrote:
As another replier noted, I think AJ's rods are a great value for the price, and will even go as far as saying they are extremely well done rods, price considerations aside. BUT, I might add that a very good friend of mine has been waiting almost a year for two rods now promised him delivery in less than a...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (PayneRods) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:59:59 GMT

Sorry to dabble in diction:

First, I must say that AJ makes a wonderful Payne 101 (98, etc.) rod in appearance and feel. I am happy to hear from so many people that the rods cast just like an original Payne. This is certainly a perfect option to many of us who wish to take the rod out and fish it to experience a classic.

Second, I would not use the term "Payne Clone." I would say that the term is best reserved for those rods made from the true DNA of the...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (OnlyTrout) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:15:17 GMT

Eperous wrote:
As another replier noted, I think AJ's rods are a great value for the price, and will even go as far as saying they are extremely well done rods, price considerations aside. BUT, I might add that a very good friend of mine has been waiting almost a year for two rods now promised him delivery in less than a couple months.

Ed

Eperous,
I do not think you slammed...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (drmarty) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:06:42 GMT

I bought an A.J. Thramer rod ( 7.5' 5 wgt.) from Coldwater a few months ago and what a beautiful rod! I haven't fished as much as I would like do to a sore knee, but the 5or 6 times on the the water have been some of the most enjoyable fishing I have done over the last 50 years or so. The rod is delicate but at the same time has backbone. It is beautifully finished but if a rod doesn't fish well it is of no use to me! This rod is a keeper! Hats off to Mr. Thramer!

Marty

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (OldCanerods) — Sun, 31 May 2009 14:58:45 GMT

basingp wrote:

A number few years back AJ built (I believe) 3 sets of 4 rods with matching SR#'s for each set. The rods were renditions of Granger classics (7' 4wt, 7½'...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Eperous) — Tue, 05 May 2009 20:40:32 GMT

softstick wrote:
Eperous, we gents normally try not to bring those issues up on the board. As a dealer for A.J. I can understand your friends situation. ... No harm no foul Take care.

Dan,

Believe me, my intent was NOT to...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Eperous) — Tue, 05 May 2009 20:17:10 GMT

cwood wrote:
It sounds like your friend should take that up with the maker instead of you, as a third party, bringing it up on this thread.

No one asked me to bring up my buddy's encounter, and I believe I clearly stated how happy I am with my two Thramer rods..... my intent is not to discredit or slam anyone, but sometimes a little knowledge might be useful to others...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:49:16 GMT

It sounds like your friend should take that up with the maker instead of you, as a third party, bringing it up on this thread.

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Eperous) — Tue, 05 May 2009 17:48:10 GMT

Pete,

I have to say that I have two AJ Thramer rods and LOVE them both. I also have a Payne taper - not hollow built - but 8', for 5 weight. GREAT rod!!!! And I have a FE Thomas Fairy, 6' 8" 3 weight - perfect for the conditions I use it and a fine casting tool.

As another replier noted, I think AJ's rods are a great value for the price, and will even go as far as saying they are extremely well done rods, price...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (jz2) — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:43:15 GMT

I've mentioned it before, but I love my 7' 2/2 3wt fe thomas copy.

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (softstick) — Mon, 04 May 2009 22:48:24 GMT

It's indeed heartwarming to see comments like these. To have a rodmaker of his stature making rods in my lifetime is something special. I may sound biased since if anyone has perused my website then you know that Allen makes my bamboo rods under the LCT banner, plus I carry his rods; the quality and experience that goes into these rods for the price tag is incredible. Over 2200 rods sold, his complete understanding of tapers, his knowledge is mind boggling, I could go on and...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (slate river) — Mon, 04 May 2009 21:32:00 GMT

AJ builds a great rod. I have three of his rods, but his version of the Payne 102 in a hollowbuilt design is my favorite.
Bob

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (wb4tjh) — Mon, 04 May 2009 10:22:38 GMT

I love the darker, caramel colored cane, and the thread colors are an absolutely perfect complementary color combination. That's a rod that I would never get tired of just looking at and fondling. When you get one that is that pleasing to the eye, that fishes as well as it looks, it's a REAL keeper. What a treasure....

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Mon, 04 May 2009 07:43:41 GMT

It sounds like you got yourself a perfect all around trout rod. I agree about 5 weights, they are a lot of fun and the most versatile in my opinion. I know the dry fly rod I cast of Thramers in the same configuration was fine with small trout because it had fairly fine tips, but plenty of wood in the butt section to handle a large fish if necessary. Enjoy your new rod!!

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (WatercolorMan) — Mon, 04 May 2009 03:43:56 GMT

That is a great looking rod by AJ . . . as always
The 100 works really well on the small water and some medium water, the 101 dose well on medium size streams and can handle larger but is limited by the length of the rod. It may be more than you need on small fish, but we all have different styles and taste. I think it would compare them to the 7612 and 7613 by Dickerson rods regarding which water and fish they handle well.

Alan

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Sun, 03 May 2009 21:17:21 GMT

I fish a lot of small streams (10/15 ft wide) ....I roll cast a lot so I like the medium fast action and when I need to reach under some over hanging branches the rod is capable of letting me make the cast. I really like it though when I'm working a riffle...I usually use about 10 ft + tippet and sweep it through a run and its been working really well. I was looking for an all round 5 wt since I also fish a couple rivers and the occassional pond...flies range from humpies to...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Sun, 03 May 2009 20:40:37 GMT

Nice looking rod. I've never cast a Payne 101 taper but have heard it's a great rod. Would it work as a small stream rod in a pinch or do you consider it mainly a medium-large stream rod? Does it cast well in close? I once cast his 7'6" 5 wt 2/2 HB signature dry fly fly and it could toss the nicest loops; great all around dry fly rod for any stream. I wonder how the two compare. Thanks and congrats again on a great rod!

CWood

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Sun, 03 May 2009 20:19:27 GMT

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Sun, 03 May 2009 09:53:01 GMT

AJ's rods are the best deal in bamboo in my opinion. I don't know him as a person, although I have purchased the only new rod I own directly from him and he was very easy to deal with, but his rods speak for themselves. I don't know how the "new" makers survive who charge 1500 for a rod with just a few rods under their belt. You can still pick up a brand new Thramer DX for $800, that's pretty amazing for someone with 2000 rods built. There are very few makers...

Re: Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Eric Peper) — Sun, 03 May 2009 08:49:30 GMT

Call AJ on the phone and ask him what he's up to, and he's likely to say, "Just makin' fishin' poles." He means it. He designs and builds fishing rods, not wall hangers, museum pieces or casting tools. He wants his rods to be fished, because that's what they are designed to do. I think if you told him you were buying one simply to place it in a collection, he'd refuse to sell it.

IMO, this is the reason...

Thramer - payne 101 clone

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:51:28 GMT

Just sharing a note on a modern builder - A.J. Thramer.

I picked up a hollow built "clone" of a payne 101
Bought it blind …never seen a Thramer rod.

Very nice. beautiful looking rod, the guides, the nice agate stripping guide, the ferules, color was nicely flamed ..very nicely finished.

The fishability and casting performance was very solid. I was surprised. It fished a lot better than I thought it would in fact I was a little taken back by how...