Storing materials?

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (pittendrigh) — Fri, 15 May 2009 11:53:35 GMT

oldschoolcane wrote:

Pittendrigh, yes......I have a serious interest in your streamer and I think the purple version would fish well. The Zonkers have always fished well for me here in Kansas and even in Arkansas for Brown trout I am seeing more and more big fish caught on rabbit fur streamers, some smaller versions imitate a freshwater worm which can be really effective if fished well.

Tim

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Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (oldschoolcane) — Fri, 15 May 2009 11:16:54 GMT

Pittendrigh, yes......I have a serious interest in your streamer and I think the purple version would fish well. The Zonkers have always fished well for me here in Kansas and even in Arkansas for Brown trout I am seeing more and more big fish caught on rabbit fur streamers, some smaller versions imitate a freshwater worm which can be really effective if fished well.

Tim

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (pittendrigh) — Thu, 14 May 2009 13:50:48 GMT

I couldn't tell if that was a serious question or not.
Purple Roadkills? I don't have any purple-dyed rabbit fur.
But it might be worth a try.

A farm pond got breached a while back (last big flood year, was that 1997?) and the
lower Gallatin River now has pike in it. Fish and Game guys have shocked pike up
to 40" long down near Three Forks Montana. They're in the lower Madison
and Jefferson as well. Worse yet, they've found some...

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (oldschoolcane) — Wed, 13 May 2009 10:51:49 GMT

Pittendrigh, that roadkill streamer has a striking resemblance to a plastic worm, do you tie it in purple?

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Tue, 12 May 2009 18:19:20 GMT

Much thanks, Jeremy!

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (thegubster) — Tue, 12 May 2009 09:05:17 GMT

Creaky, you might take some help from this article.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/cst/cst062308.php

Jeremy.

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (pittendrigh) — Sat, 09 May 2009 11:43:27 GMT

RE> don't collect roadkill

I've been using roadkill for 30 years. I skin marmots and foxes (when needed) and tweety birds found
along the road (I know, but I do lots of things) and dry them with salt. Then I wash the skins
in fells naptha, dry them and put the skins is zip-lock bags with moisture absorbing desicant.
That works for me.

When ever that stuff does get moist, bugs come out of no where--writhing, fuzzy, carniverous
little nasties....

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feeds@yuku.com (Bucktrout) — Sat, 09 May 2009 09:55:16 GMT

I keep all of my skins in ziplock bags which I store in a cedar box. I haven't had an infestation in 20 years. The cedar may or may not be as effective as the moth balls but I like the smell better.

Eric

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feeds@yuku.com (DrLogik) — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:30:14 GMT

I used to use mothballs right up to about 16 years ago when I lost entire collection of furs and feathers to bugs. They used to be made of napthalene back then. I then started using "Moth crystals" which are made of paradichlorobenzene since then. I have not even seen a bug since. I also take the other precautions you folks have described here to quarantine new materials until I know they are safe.

I also got a good tip from a respected tyer many years ago. That is,...

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feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:00:07 GMT

Thanks everyone - great suggestions. I am still 50/50 on whether to leave necks in bags or not; I can see pluses and minuses to each side. Thanks

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (joaniebo) — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:03:07 GMT

Awhile back, I read an article that Bounce fabric softener sheets repel the little critters, so I've been putting a piece or two of the sheets in each zip-lock bag .... so far, so good ..... and when I open each plastic bag, it smells one heck of a lot better than a dead bird carcass !

Cheers and Safe Fishing

Bob

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (PkwyAngler) — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:40:27 GMT

Creaky your collection of Charlie Collin's hackle is too valuable for just a card board shoe box! It's okay for the synthetics, etc.

Like Eric Peper, I too have been tying flies and collecting fly tying materials both natural & synthetic since the early 1960's.

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (Ken M 44) — Fri, 08 May 2009 11:33:44 GMT

So far, so good.

Me too (says he touching some wood)
I use the same process - zip lock bags, airtight plastic boxes with moth balls in the boxes so the smell is minimal except when open.

Regarding the freezer trick - I was advised to zap anything suspect enough to go to the freezer in a microwave for a few seconds on high immediately after removing from the...

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (Eric Peper) — Fri, 08 May 2009 11:23:13 GMT

I've been tying since about 1968, and I've only had one bug infestation, about ten years after I started tying. That disaster was due to not having treated an incoming wild bird skin, and it taught me a not-soon-to-be-forgotten lesson. I use the "freeze-it" method on any natural material for which I don't know the source, and it has worked well for me. I have never used any other form of bug deterrent (cedar, mothballs, naptha flakes or other) as I am a bit nervous...

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (narcodog) — Fri, 08 May 2009 10:22:02 GMT

When I was at the Dette's shop a couple of years ago I saw that they use whole cloves. Joe told me they last for a month or so than have to be replaced.
Personally I keep all of my stuff in snap lid containers with "Snowhite" nuggets. I prefer them over moth ball as mothballs stink.

Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (pittendrigh) — Fri, 08 May 2009 10:16:04 GMT

The freezer for a few days (for incoming roadkill) is a good idea. I never thought of that.
I use plastic drawer towers I buy at places like Target-Costco, etc. Sometimes zip-lock
bags too, inside those plastic drawers.

The one special thing I do is to collect moisture-absorbing desicant packets.
Those little packets come in everything these days, from drugs to electronic
gear. I save all of them and I throw them all into my fly tying material drawers.
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Re: Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (Bamboo Adict) — Fri, 08 May 2009 09:52:11 GMT

Good Morning Creakycane,
I am not a trusting guy how shops or anybody had taken care of material before I get them. No mater were I get them all material go into a freezer for a week to make sure all critters are dead. (I now have my own freezer out in the garage since my wife thought she was thawing out a chicken for dinner, but it was a whole wood duck.) Then I store every thing in plastic shoe boxes or bigger plastic boxes for larger or whole skins. Ceder blocks help. But still when...

Storing materials?

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Fri, 08 May 2009 09:40:12 GMT

I wondered if I could get some opinions on storing fly tying materials...?
I have my tying stuff in a spare upstairs bedroom in good climate control and no bug issues.
Since I start with commercial materials, I have never had any bug issues, but sometimes have new materials I buy in a bag in the garage for a few months just to check.
My question is: just how careful to I have to be about bugs in necks, dubbing etc - do I need airtight containers and moth balls for everything?...