Does Deet and Boo Clash?

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (Battenkiller) — Fri, 15 May 2009 15:20:53 GMT

My first encounter with 100% DEET was when a friend gave me a bottle to try. I lived in an area with extremely aggressive mosquitoes and it seemed like just the ticket. Then one day I was out on the porch playing my vintage 1940s Martin guitar. The skeeters were all around me, and I just laughed... until I went to put the guitar down and about 12 sq. inches of finish were literally stuck to my arm!

Yes, it will dissolve just about anything. I never got it on a fly rod, but...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (cdmoore) — Fri, 15 May 2009 11:45:49 GMT

I carry multiple levels with me. I like Sawyers and have been using it for a few years now with good results. They make it for clothing and skin. I look for small bottles of the stuff for skin application or move it to a small bottle and it goes in a pocket on shirt, shorts or vest. I usually start with this. You can get the low-grade DEET stuff (18-30%) in a nice mixture with sunscreen, also a smart move...forget the brand name...Cutter's or OFF. I also keep a bottle of 100% DEET in...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (flyslinger) — Wed, 13 May 2009 20:35:40 GMT

I suppose I should amend my earlier post by saying that when I go camping (or walking in an area that looks like it may have ticks), I always use a deet product applied to clothing. I am very sorry that any of you have had Lyme Disease or related tick borne problems.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (16 pmd) — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:22:40 GMT

For skin the CDC recommends DEET of 50% or less..

For clothing they say: "Certain products containing permethrin are recommended for use on clothing, shoes, bed nets, and camping gear, and are registered with EPA for this use. Permethrin is highly effective as an insecticide and as a repellent. Permethrin-treated clothing repels and kills ticks, mosquitoes, and other arthropods and retains this effect after repeated laundering."

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (HexaMaineiac) — Wed, 13 May 2009 15:25:09 GMT

Ticks need to be on you 24-48 hours before they give you Lyme Disease. A daily full-body tick patrol is in order. Ticks also carry some other nasty things, like Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, babasiosis, erlichiosis. Some others are Southern Tick-Associated Rash Illness, Tick-borne Relapsing Fever, and Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever. Lyme, RMSF and Erlichiosis are the ones we hear of most in E.R. literature.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (MFRS) — Wed, 13 May 2009 13:36:25 GMT

Scott, sorry to hear you had that disease, I am of the thought that if the tic is prevalent in the area then go with deet. Thanks for the input as this may be an eye-opener to help others.
Gary

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (scott bearden) — Wed, 13 May 2009 10:07:31 GMT

Read what the repellent actually repels. Most of them don't repel ticks. I have already been treated for Lyme Disease once and it sucks. Plus you will forever test positive, so if you know you have been bitten by a deer tick you might as well go through the treatment again. And that treatment is hard on your organs, the disease is even worse if untreated. Keep it away from your waders as well. I would rather re-finish a rod if I must so I can spend more years fishing. Lyme Disease is...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (flyslinger) — Tue, 12 May 2009 21:04:58 GMT

The gnats in the coastal marsh that I frequent eat Off on the main course (me) and demand Ultrathon on their dessert (also me). The one thing that does keep them out of my eyes nose and ears when the wind lays down is a bug suit. They still get into it occasionally and gnaw at me, but it is a tremendous help. It is hard to see details like submerged fish, but its better than getting carried away with the swarm.
I know somebody is going to say something about the fish on the stringer,...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (HexaMaineiac) — Tue, 12 May 2009 20:40:46 GMT

That's what the bugs find me. In younger days my ass was chewed to pieces while my girlfriend's went unscathed, although the experiment wasn't really scientific in nature.
I like the spray on stuff for my clothes, but they still come after me.
The DEET product that doesn't make me paranoid is one from Cutters that comes in a stick like deodorant and sits on your skin rather than soaking into it.
Even with that on my eyebrows they will still get under my glasses...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (Eric Peper) — Tue, 12 May 2009 12:32:28 GMT

16 pmd wrote:
Sawyer's Repellant for Clothing, available at REI, is a repellant and insecticide. It's the same stuff used on Bug Off or Buzz Off shirts and works great for mosquitoes, ticks, sandflies and other bugs. Sprayed on pants and shirts and allowed to dry, it lasts for six weeks and six washings. It contains plant-based permethrin, which has no apparent side effects when used as directed. You still need something...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (recane1) — Tue, 12 May 2009 12:18:44 GMT

I was just going to say that. Nothing beats a good cigar.
My dad used to always pour about a cup of Clorox in with his bath water in the summer. He said that it kept the ticks and flies and mosquito's away. He did it for years and if it did not work, he would have stopped doing it years ago.

Aaron

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (tedgolden) — Tue, 12 May 2009 11:34:09 GMT

There's always Parodi cigars.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (GrsdLnr) — Tue, 12 May 2009 11:13:00 GMT

DEET's the most effective stuff made, IMO. I have one bottle of the 100% stuff left and use it on hats and clothing only. I tried a citrus-based product called Natrapel last year on exposed skin, harmless to lines and rods and it worked OK but had to be reapplied every hour of so.

A good headnet is a lifesaver when the bugs get really bad. On a Quebec salmon trip at the height of black-fly season we would have been driven off the river without our

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (wb4tjh) — Tue, 12 May 2009 10:10:47 GMT

There's another repellent ingredient called picaridin or also known as icaridin, which is being touted as an effective alternative to deet. It's said it will not dissolve plastics or mar finishes. Cutter's Insect Repellent uses it. But some sources I have read say it's not nearly as effective as deet. I guess whatever you use, it has to be some pretty bad stuff to repel blood suckers.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (MFRS) — Tue, 12 May 2009 08:45:35 GMT

wb4tjh wrote:
You'd better read the ingredients on the OFF can....DEET is the primary active ingredient in OFF insect repellent.

I will use a repellent that has no deet for exposed skin, I don't spray myself with repellent and then read the label. Oh wait now, you are speaking about yourself, I guess I do things differently than you.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (16 pmd) — Tue, 12 May 2009 02:43:52 GMT

Sawyer's Repellant for Clothing, available at REI, is a repellant and insecticide. It's the same stuff used on Bug Off or Buzz Off shirts and works great for mosquitoes, ticks, sandflies and other bugs. Sprayed on pants and shirts and allowed to dry, it lasts for six weeks and six washings. It contains plant-based permethrin, which has no apparent side effects when used as directed. You still need something else for exposed skin (face & hands), but I've used it for thick and...

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (john channer) — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:52:40 GMT

I'll use Off or something like that if I just absolutely can't resist a day on the San Juan in the summer, but mostly I go up to the mountains, they're much cooler in the summer time and I hardly ever see a mosquito up there. The best bug repellent is to go where the bugs aren't.
john

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (wb4tjh) — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:29:46 GMT

You'd better read the ingredients on the OFF can....DEET is the primary active ingredient in OFF insect repellent.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (MFRS) — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:09:13 GMT

Thank you for the relevant feedback, I like the idea of applying a deet product to clothing and/or going with OFF.

Re: Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (slw) — Mon, 11 May 2009 20:34:59 GMT

My experience with deet products is that they can and will wreck finishes and plastics. I can't say whether that's because of the active ingredient or the carrier/inactive ingredient.

I spend 3-5 days/week out doors and can say for sure that deet products work on bugs. I use the stuff. When fishing, I choose to use Cutters stick in the push-up tube. It allows me to apply the repellent exactly where I want it...open seams on clothing, underside of hat brims, the backs of...

Does Deet and Boo Clash?

feeds@yuku.com (MFRS) — Mon, 11 May 2009 14:42:15 GMT

I did a search for deet and could not find any negative effects about fishing those beautiful bamboo rods and the use of fly repellent that has deet, will deet cause the wrap finish to become soft/ tacky. I have used it often and have had plastics soften when it comes in contact with deet. Some people will not use it because of health concerns and with West Nile a real concern in Canada now, for me, deet is the ultimate deterrent to mosquitoes, though if it eats the boo rod finish then...