Quadrate Rods

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Wed, 20 May 2009 16:50:23 GMT

Thanks, Dan. I've wondered what it was all about.

Now the idea that they get rid of the crack in the threads at a ferrule..... that's about craziest marketing scheme I've heard in this bamboo world. If you are willing to pay an extra grand to get rid of something I've never even heard anyone complain about you are plum crazy! Now if the rod knocks your socks off and is that much better to an equal rod without the fiberglass ferruels, I can understand someone...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Wed, 20 May 2009 12:47:02 GMT

creakycane wrote:
I am told by some of the folks who build hollowbuilt rods that it is tough to work in the small ferrule in a 3 pc design and keep the action desirable - ie, crisp and light in tip.

I've been told it isn't that difficult to crisp up the upper ferrule station on a three piece rod by manipulating the taper and hollow cutting dimensions. It just takes some labor and some...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (softstick) — Wed, 20 May 2009 10:06:11 GMT

Cwood, the reason that glass ferrules cost so much is time & labor. I believe Wojnicki, Peterson, and Maca are the rod makers using them. Now, to the best of my knowledge there is not a supply source for glass ferrules. It's not like you can call up Bailey Woods for instance and order glass ferrules off the shelf.
These fellas have to make them from scratch to match each rod and from the responses I've received in emails it's quite a labor intensive process and not very...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (cwood) — Wed, 20 May 2009 08:31:10 GMT

creakycane wrote:
I am told by some of the folks who build hollowbuilt rods that it is tough to work in the small ferrule in a 3 pc design and keep the action desirable - ie, crisp and light in tip. The fiberglass ferrule will really help that issue, even in light 2 pc rods, and seems to streamline the design processes. These are the kinds of actions that really will benefit from light ferrules - rods like the 8'3" for...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bow river) — Tue, 19 May 2009 16:50:32 GMT

jimp
i'd also like to see some pictures of it when you get it

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (JimP) — Tue, 19 May 2009 07:48:11 GMT

Wow that Zietak rod looks Fabulous. From the pics the workmanship appears absolutely first class. Given that you also own Dana Gray and Bil Taylor rods to compare it to, your compliments are especially nice for me to hear. The 7'9" Zietak quad I am buying is/was a demo rod that was fished very little. I will let you know how she looks and casts upon arrival.

JimP

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (creakycane) — Mon, 18 May 2009 21:20:54 GMT

I am told by some of the folks who build hollowbuilt rods that it is tough to work in the small ferrule in a 3 pc design and keep the action desirable - ie, crisp and light in tip. The fiberglass ferrule will really help that issue, even in light 2 pc rods, and seems to streamline the design processes. These are the kinds of actions that really will benefit from light ferrules - rods like the 8'3" for a 4 that seems to be a great rod from numeous hollowbulders might get even more...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Mon, 18 May 2009 20:34:47 GMT

bobbeegee wrote:

seattlesetters wrote:
I know Erik Peterson of Linnéa Rods is now offering quads. They are incredible casters, and I have two on order (a 3wt and a 4wt). I believe he'll be offering his quads with the option of fiberglass ferrules, as well.

The rods are radically hollow-built and ultra light in hand, and possess the...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (rckdr) — Mon, 18 May 2009 20:31:40 GMT

Second Bill Taylor. His 7'9 5 weight and 7'3 4 wt are both good fast tapers. Good prices, spend the extra 150 bucks to have them hollow built.

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bow river) — Mon, 18 May 2009 19:56:16 GMT

Jimp.fishnbanjoplace
have found a 7'9" Zietek Quad that it looks like I will be purchasing next week.

well congrats on getting that quad , i'm pretty sure your going to be happy ,

i'm a lover of quads myself , have a dana gray , bill taylor ,and a tim zietek 8 ft 5 wt that i just got 2 days ago , when i had him build me this rod he was very open to doing what ever i wanted as long as it was not crazy , this rod is going to be one that will stay in...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bobbeegee) — Mon, 18 May 2009 19:29:50 GMT

seattlesetters wrote:
I know Erik Peterson of Linnéa Rods is now offering quads. They are incredible casters, and I have two on order (a 3wt and a 4wt). I believe he'll be offering his quads with the option of fiberglass ferrules, as well.

The rods are radically hollow-built and ultra light in hand, and possess the crisp, positive action you'd expect from a fine Western rodmaker.

Just...

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (JimP) — Sun, 17 May 2009 16:02:46 GMT

Thanks for all the info everyone. Lots to choose from! I have now ordered a Dana Gray ( for my retirement years or grandchildren perhaps) and, in the meantime, have found a 7'9" Zietek Quad that it looks like I will be purchasing next week.

Best,

JimP

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (seattlesetters) — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:17:22 GMT

I know Erik Peterson of Linnéa Rods is now offering quads. They are incredible casters, and I have two on order (a 3wt and a 4wt). I believe he'll be offering his quads with the option of fiberglass ferrules, as well.

The rods are radically hollow-built and ultra light in hand, and possess the crisp, positive action you'd expect from a fine Western rodmaker.

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (Southbranch) — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:34:08 GMT

Whether it's hex, penta or quad, the rod must suit the water where you use it. This fine quad made by Don Schroeder fits the larger streams I fish in Wisconsin, and I have one of Don's 7'6" quads for 4 wt. that I use for smaller and quieter venues.

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (firehole) — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:29:23 GMT

Ric,
That's good to hear there are some great casting quads under 7'.

Dennis

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (paxlev) — Thu, 14 May 2009 22:51:05 GMT

Dennis, I have a 6'6" 2/2 4 wt "Carlson Gray" inked by both Sam and Dana that is a spectacular fishing rod. Just like any other piece of bamboo, if you have a good builder (or, in this case, two great builders), a short length in a quad really shouldn't be an issue. That said, I firmly believe that quads longer than 8', even if hollow built, are going to have more weight and surface area to address during a cast, and are less desirable than a good/comparable hex....

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (nayashewon) — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:24:54 GMT

I fish mostly larger flies and have a 9' 6wt Edwards Quadrate model 50 that is one of my favorite rods. I use it a lot for night fishing during the Hex hatch and with deerhair bugs. It feels much lighter in the hand than most other 9' cane rods.

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (bubbleback) — Thu, 14 May 2009 20:16:31 GMT

Bill Taylor quads, no better value in quads today in my opinion. His 7'6" 2/2 4 weight hollow built has become my go to rod. Call Bill up sometime, he is one of the nicest and easiest going guys you will speak with.

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (oldtrout) — Thu, 14 May 2009 20:02:09 GMT

Don't forget Chris Raines' hollow built quads. I believe he offers models from 7'3" to 8'6".

Re: Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (PYochim) — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:41:14 GMT

Chris Carlin makes a nice four sided rod at a reasonable price. Mine is the 8' 5 weight. It is a medium action rod that is very comfortable to fish. This rod is quickly becoming my favorite for this area.

Quadrate Rods

feeds@yuku.com (JimP) — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:30:48 GMT

I have never seen much less cast a quadrate rod but it seems I have been coming across more and more of them in my readings and in cataloges. From what I read they are actually more difficult to build than hex rods and they are more accurate (track better). Almost all the ones I have been coming across in cataloges are 7' 3 wts. There are some 4 wts as well with a few shorter and a very few longer (7 1/2') ones. Two questions:
1) Is there a reason the vast majority of quadrates...