http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/24853/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Thu, 28 May 2009 07:09:08 GMT Thu, 28 May 2009 22:10:02 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/24853/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140358/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140358 DrakeBob wrote:

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"The government is making the assumption. It's called class envy."


Around this forum as of late, it's better called "rod envy." We can get into an analysis of that, but why bother... we have a reel envy page, too

]]> feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140358 Thu, 28 May 2009 22:10:01 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140342/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140342 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140342 Thu, 28 May 2009 20:10:49 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140341/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140341
Add another $50 to the cost of the average Heddon and you'd still have a rod that's almost but not quite as good as a Granger!

Best,
Scott ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Flyman615) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140341 Thu, 28 May 2009 20:06:08 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140340/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140340 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140340 Thu, 28 May 2009 19:56:30 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140339/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140339 Chartist1 wrote:

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I read this morning that one thing congress is considering is slapping a value added tax (VAT) on goods sold in America to pay for healthcare and the federal deficit. 130 countries around the world already have such a tax. A 10% VAT would push a $2000 rod to $2200. The affect I believe would be to increase demand for preowned rods and reels and hurt demand for new equipment. Rod makers will be hurt big time... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140339 Thu, 28 May 2009 19:51:28 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140338/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140338
1a) i think the money i make is mine and i should fund the government at the minimum level needed to fund the direct responsibilities they are tasked with
response 1b) they think the money i make is theirs except for what they think i should be allowed to keep to live my life in the manner thought best by the State

2a) wealth can only be accrued by taking it away from others just as deserving and so must be reapportioned by an all knowing... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (AJ Bamboo) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140338 Thu, 28 May 2009 19:44:10 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140331/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140331 "The government is making the assumption. It's called class envy."


Around this forum as of late, it's better called "rod envy." We can get into an analysis of that, but why bother... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (DrakeBob) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140331 Thu, 28 May 2009 18:51:11 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140330/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140330 feeds@yuku.com (pmag) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140330 Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:18 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140327/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140327
Hey, I'm a Fisheries biologist, not an economist. I have no idea what these tax dollars would go towards, although you guys have made me interested in the tax and I will definitely look it up. I was simply stating my opinions and observations about folks that spend the big bucks on rods. There is a subset of cane rod collectors and... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (cwood) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140327 Thu, 28 May 2009 18:33:16 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140314/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140314 feeds@yuku.com (mr flymph) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140314 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:27:16 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140313/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140313 cwood wrote:

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If you have 2 grand to drop on a rod (a.k.a. luxury item) I don't think such a tax would deter the purchase. Job losses, high health care expenses, and a general lack of income are what will keep folks from buying rods IMO.

There are consequences to raising taxes. The luxury tax on yachts enacted in the mid-1990s was later repealed after it stifled... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Greg Reynolds) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140313 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:12:41 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140311/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140311 feeds@yuku.com (riverwader) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140311 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:10:08 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140310/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140310
I am getting off my soap box and going fishing while I can still afford it.

fishbum ]]> feeds@yuku.com (fishbum) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140310 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:04:00 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140309/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140309 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tedgolden) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140309 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:00:01 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140305/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140305
Paul
]]> feeds@yuku.com (PYochim) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140305 Thu, 28 May 2009 16:43:08 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140304/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140304 You got a very big mistake that is very popular now even in DC. I just bought rod last week on the forum for 2600 i wouldn't buy it if it was 2860. Wealth spread will have impact every one buyers and sellers and will pass to buyer of cheaper rods when more people will have to lower their limits ]]> feeds@yuku.com (alpom) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140304 Thu, 28 May 2009 16:25:18 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140301/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140301 ). If someone has 2K burning a hole in their pocket for a rod, and has such funds to spend freely on a toy, a couple hundred isn't going to be the deal breaker. Look at the prices in cane rods in general, they have gone sky rocket compared to 10-15 years ago because folks are willing to pay it. This group loves big names... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (cwood) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140301 Thu, 28 May 2009 15:44:32 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140298/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140298 feeds@yuku.com (PYochim) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140298 Thu, 28 May 2009 15:25:37 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140293/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140293
Europe has put up with a VAT for many years, and it only seems to slow things down a bit for the natives... anyone that tries to make a direct comparison is probably whistling in the wind, since there are so many cultural differentials.

Ralph ]]> feeds@yuku.com (czkid) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140293 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:59:51 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/140282/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html#reply-140282 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/sreply/140282 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:54:20 GMT http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/24853/t/The-impact-of-a-VAT-on-collecting.html feeds@yuku.com (Chartist1) http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/24853 Thu, 28 May 2009 07:09:08 GMT