Dickerson 8014

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (RPL) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:56:42 GMT

AF of L? The 8014 Guide Presentation might qualify as the ultimate blue collar cane! Or maybe the one issue in Detroit on which management and workers saw eye to eye.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (j2t) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:59:34 GMT

Jim,

Nice to know that someone from this board ended up buying that rod.

A unique piece to be sure.

-Jared

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (wefishcane) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:43:42 GMT

No I haven't. When I first purchased the rod the thought was to fish it. However, I soon realized the uniqueness and historical significance of the rod and it has been kept in the rod cabinet in its original unfished condition.
Jim

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (appgap) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:32:23 GMT

Thanks Jim. I figured it was likely aesthetics rather than taper or hardwear. Have you ever used yours? It is a killer taper when you want to shoot a bunch of line out in a hurry.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (wefishcane) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:14:51 GMT

Marc,
This rod was commissioned by the Detroit Local Joint Executive Board of the AFof L in 1951 and presented to an individual whose name is on the rod. This plus additional information is written on the butt section in Dickerson's hand.
Jim

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (appgap) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:55:27 GMT

Jim,
Can you tell me how the Guide Presentation differs from the 8014 Guide?
thanks,
Marc

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (cutthroattroutnm) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:05:44 GMT

In the 5 figures, for sure.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (wefishcane) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:52:40 GMT

I have a Dickerson 8014 Guide Presentation model in mint unfished condition. It is likely the only one of its kind in existance. It has one tip section that is 1/4" shorter than the other (obviously made that way). Stein and Schaaf in their book on Dickerson indicated that "Dickerson has a reputation for precise rod building. Yet the majority of the more than 100 rods personally inspected by the authors did not have all sections exactly the same length. One tip section was at...

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (fishnbanjo) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:47:23 GMT

Sorry Dave but you're wrong, if you look around the forums here you'll see many posts drooling and expounding the virtues of their Montague rods, I've owned 1/2 dozen Rapidan rods over the years and not two cast alike and only one was a decent enough caster the same cannot be said for Dickerson and other makers. Besides it's makers like Payne, Thomas. Leonard, Dickerson Garrison, Gillum and a few others who made exceptional fishing rods that brought many new makers into this,...

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (dqatar) — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:45:01 GMT

what happen to the conversations on Dickerson 8014 , it was shoot down??? as for a Dickerson 8014 in original condition ,but the tips are 1/4 inch short . What would the going price be like ?

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Sun, 31 May 2009 23:05:09 GMT

oneculm wrote:
Yes condition is important but on this board it is Name/Name Name. The above post would not be here if it was a Montague Rapidan in excellent condition.

Nor any other board in all probability. This might be why the aforementioned Ferrari's cost more than, say, Renault's.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (cutthroattroutnm) — Sun, 31 May 2009 22:48:42 GMT

WOW, was I off!! Somebody got a great deal.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) — Sun, 31 May 2009 21:14:11 GMT

I do not see what someone might order or not order has anything to do with my post. If there is a Montague Rapidan up for auction in good condition do you honestly think there would have been a post wondering about the final price or the actual condition of the rod ? I am in no way disputing the quality of any maker but the name that goes with the rod is more of a determining factor as to the price than condition.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (fishnbanjo) — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:56:48 GMT

oneculm wrote:
Yes condition is important but on this board it is Name/Name Name. The above post would not be here if it was a Montague Rapidan in excellent condition.

Really! How many of your customers have requested you build a Montague rod taper for them?

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:19:00 GMT

Yes condition is important but on this board it is Name/Name Name. The above post would not be here if it was a Montague Rapidan in excellent condition.

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (RPL) — Sun, 31 May 2009 19:51:52 GMT

All three of these rods were probably great deals for buyers. I bought the 8 ft. Dickerson 8013 with the yellow gold wraps at the Lang's auction and could not be more pleased. I had been looking for a nice 8013 for years and missed several. So it was hard to resist. As Lang's had advertised, it did have a ferrule click, a missing guide, and a short tip, by one inch. Bob Summers just finished fixing it up, including the clicking ferrule, which is now Bob-Summers-tight. What a great job...

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (mosquito) — Sun, 31 May 2009 17:47:36 GMT

"what would be the better purchase"...........That depends on whether one wants to collect or fish these fine rods. From a fishability standpoint any of the mentioned examples would be great and the price is probably in line with that purpose. From a fishability standpoint, try and get the nicest example with the least amout of work done to it and at the lowest price. The nice thing about "Fishable" Dickerson rods are as Pete says "it gives each owner the...

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Sun, 31 May 2009 15:32:41 GMT

I'm Just curious about oppinion from seasoned observers....
what would be the better purchase (although I think each is pretty good since it gives each owner the opportunity for the Dickerson experience)

the auction 8014 for $4299
the Selb refinished 8013 for $4120
or the lang sale Dickerson that was on a month or so ago (I thought that went for a reasonable price as well)

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Sun, 31 May 2009 13:17:45 GMT

cutthroattroutnm wrote:
That Bob Selb rod seemed like a really good price, even for a refinished Dickerson. After all, what you're really buying is his taper, his cane work and his signature. While he did fine varnish work, there are modern makers who can rival and even surpass Dickerson in that category.

Unmolested original examples are what bring the best prices whether it's a Ferrari or a Dickerson or...

Re: Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (cutthroattroutnm) — Sun, 31 May 2009 12:20:35 GMT

That Bob Selb rod seemed like a really good price, even for a refinished Dickerson. After all, what you're really buying is his taper, his cane work and his signature. While he did fine varnish work, there are modern makers who can rival and even surpass Dickerson in that category.

Dickerson 8014

feeds@yuku.com (cutthroattroutnm) — Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:44 GMT

Any gentlemen's wagers as to what the 8014 now for auction at that unnamed site will end up going for? It's at $4299 now and has 4 hours left.

My guess is $7200