Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (bamboocollector11) — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:48:16 GMT

Here are the pictures of my 9' rod. The varnish has "cooked", but almost all the wraps remain, so it is currently in my "rod shop" for an overhaul. This rod is marked the same as JZ2's rod on the opposite side of the reel seat. I have another rod with the exact same reel seat, but more ornate ferrules.

Ed

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (bamboo4u2) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:50:35 GMT

The rod's an 8 1/2' , 4/5 weight.
Regards and WDE!!
Bob L

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (jz2) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:49:30 GMT

Hey Bob,
what length/line wt is your fly rod?

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (bamboo4u2) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:23:00 GMT

Todd,
Check the ferrules and winding check on my rod. The reelseat on mine is a screwlock instead of sliding ring. No "Union" decal but obviously the same maker.
Regards and WDE!!
Bob L

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (Canewrap) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:40:26 GMT

My understanding is that Union Hardware was another company that outsourced their work and used a number of different makers. From the examples I've seen that is probably correct. I've seen some really poor quality Union Hardware stuff and this example, in the picture, is obviously made by a better quality outfit. In fact, it looks more like an Edwards or Thomas quality hardware.

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (jz2) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:07:44 GMT

Hello Rex,
don't those ferrules look like this pic I sent you of my two "Union" (not Union Hardware) rods? If Union Hardware was making such high end product inhouse, it begs the question, who was their maker. Wasn't Devine also in Ithaca, NY? Maybe a rodmaker trained there? so many rods, so many questions, so few definitive answers.

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (hopkintoncane) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:15:15 GMT

Rex, I'm no UH expert but I think this rod is the closest I've seen to nailing down the Montague attribution. The wrap colors and arrangement of the wraps are both very similar to a lot of the older nice quality Montague rods that we have been seeing on the forum lately. I will try to get some pics up when my camera returns, but I have a Monty trade rod that looks a lot like this one, I agree though, there are a lot of distinguishing features about these UH rods, I'm wondering if...

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (TheMontyMan) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:59:28 GMT

Ed,

I'd like to see pics too. I've seen several Union Hardware rods that most people would swear are Montys, but the hardware didn't look Monty to me. I think they were made by UH. From some other threads, it appears that UH had some of their own reel seat patents. If that's the case, why have Monty make your rods for you, when you have your own hardware?? Here's a related thread -

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (jz2) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:55:36 GMT

Hello Ed.
can you post some pics?

Re: Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (bamboocollector11) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:23:08 GMT

I have an extremely similar marked Union Hardware rod with the same wrap scheme and hardware. The primary difference is the shape of the cork grip and the grip check. The rod was made by Montague.

Ed

Union Hardware Rod - who made it?

feeds@yuku.com (jz2) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:57:21 GMT

Please take a look. Elements of this rod seem much higher quality that the usual union hardware rod. did they make it or farm it out? does anyone else have a high quality union hardware rod? pics please.