a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (mer) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:17:11 GMT

clarkman23 wrote:

mer wrote:
Size 12 TMC 200R, lightly weighted (about 8-12 turns of undersized wire or a small black tungsten bead), a little brown/copper Antron for a tail/shuck, peacock herl body, copper wire rib, a couple of turns of partridge at the front, tied soft hackle style (if you use a bead, I put the partridge in front of the bead so the bead...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (clarkman23) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:06:54 GMT

mer wrote:
Size 12 TMC 200R, lightly weighted (about 8-12 turns of undersized wire or a small black tungsten bead), a little brown/copper Antron for a tail/shuck, peacock herl body, copper wire rib, a couple of turns of partridge at the front, tied soft hackle style (if you use a bead, I put the partridge in front of the bead so the bead acts as a thorax).

Shhhh, actually, I think that is my number one...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (tim simbari) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:32:48 GMT

Among probably what should be on any fisherman's list of top 3 or 4 most important considerations is the principle mentioned by, I think, Datus Proper, "many people give trout too much credit for brains, and not enough credit for shyness".

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (mer) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:03:11 GMT

I get skunked regularly on the Nissi, haven't fished the Squanacook yet.

As for the nymphing, I don't us much more than what you do, I'm usually with a 4wt or a 5/6wt, floating line. A trick is really a long length of something like 5x fluro (think at least 3 feet, preferably 4).

Odd year? You can say that again, twice. At least we have plenty of water in the streams now, the temps are still nice and cool, fishing should be good for a bit yet.

New...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Bud) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:45:25 GMT

Beeeeeeeeeeee the Fish......

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:33:02 GMT

Thanks Mer,
I live in Littleton.

I'll admit the water I fish can be stubborn (or maybe its me being stubborn) because I tend to use the floating line and when nymphing I may use a bead head but thats it. I was just rereading Charlie Brooks book on nymphing and he's basicly saying I'm a fool if I don't use a weighted line...maybe its time I dust one of the old ones off.... As far as waters I fish ...I'm all around fishing places like Squanacook (which is...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (mer) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:53:40 GMT

Pete, which part of Ma? You can PM if you don't want it public. I'm north of the border to you, 15 minutes from the airport.

Spend a season nymphing, both upstream and downstream. As much fun as it is to see a fish hit a dry fly, I learned a lot more about "where the fish are supposed to be" by nymphing for a year. They don't have to be big heavy bottom draggers, you'd be amazed at how useful a size 14 Hares Ear, size 14/16 Pheasant tail are. Put a little...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:45:48 GMT

Eric Peper wrote:
I think it was either Burton Spiller or William Harnden Forster who wrote about asking a seasoned grouse hunter how he learned to hit grouse. The response was, " . . .by missing a lot of them." Trout fishing is much the same. If you keep at it and practice polishing your presentation skills and spend as much time observing feeding fish as you do casting to them, one day it will all come together for...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Eric Peper) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:28:57 GMT

I think it was either Burton Spiller or William Harnden Forster who wrote about asking a seasoned grouse hunter how he learned to hit grouse. The response was, " . . .by missing a lot of them." Trout fishing is much the same. If you keep at it and practice polishing your presentation skills and spend as much time observing feeding fish as you do casting to them, one day it will all come together for you, and you'll take them with ease. Then, the next time out, they'll...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Aransas) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:32:01 GMT

Pete from MA wrote:

I find it interesting how you can be very accomplished with a rod (either casting or mending)....but it just doesn't translate to being an accomplished angler.
For me, this has been a season of enjoying the feeling of bamboo with nice accurate casts and watching nice drifts... but eventhough I look like I know how to handle a rod ...I'm just not catching fish. A few brookies (that would...

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Duff) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:23:27 GMT

Pete, that's the reason $3,500 fly rods exist. Seriously though, there are times when the wariest Silver Creek rainbow, who has ignored your best cast of a #20 trico all morning, will foolishly rise to slam a sloppily cast Letort hopper when the wind kicks up. Well, okay, I saw that happen once in 30 years.

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Think Bamboo) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:27 GMT

It's not only the perfect cast or the fly presentation. You have to gain their trust! You're going to release them anyhow, right? So talk to them!

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (geojasstef) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:06:09 GMT

Last weekend I had several good sized fish feeding just a few feet from me on a brown drake sinner fall. and I couldn't manage to hook any of them........very embarrassing.

Re: a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (OldCanerods) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:25:05 GMT

The old truth about being out done by a fish with a brain the size of pea always made me very humble.

a painful truth ... casting doesn't mean catching

feeds@yuku.com (Pete from MA) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:39:46 GMT

I find it interesting how you can be very accomplished with a rod (either casting or mending)....but it just doesn't translate to being an accomplished angler.
For me, this has been a season of enjoying the feeling of bamboo with nice accurate casts and watching nice drifts... but eventhough I look like I know how to handle a rod ...I'm just not catching fish. A few brookies (that would rise for a leaf), a few chub, a random sunny hiding out in the trout stream... but the...