Correct nomenclature

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (levertonhatches) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:21:29 GMT

I think the terms are useful. My humble understanding would be:
Classic = Has stood the test of time, exhibiting values as valid today as at the time of origination. Note the requirement of passage of time, a test of time. "Value" could be intrinsic or artistic or both. My h.u., again, would be not to award "classic" stature in many cases, and what cases that might be would certainly and fairly be open to debate.

Vintage = Old. Note the lack of any...

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (PkwyAngler) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:11:14 GMT

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Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (RPL) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:39:45 GMT

As oneculm notes, nomenclature probably doesn't matter. What's in a name? I agree, but while we're on the subject, "vintage" seems to place emphasis on the age of a rod while "classic" emphasizes style or some other attribute. Maybe vintage is in he eye of the beholder. Perhaps the line that separates modern and vintage comes at some arbitrary point defined by whoever uses the term and whose credibility rises or falls depending on how he uses the term. In...

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (softstick) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:35:19 GMT

Please don't be too grumpy oneculm. For every possible opinion on any infinium subject there's bound to be someone who thinks it matters. I was asking because I had this discussion with a friend over the weekend who has some old rods from a rodmaker who's still turning them out.
Myself, I prefer the term "early". Appreciate the comments fellas.

Dan

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (pvansch1) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:35:58 GMT

In Connecticut for antique or vintage American cars it's 25 years.
Nothing more irritating than seeing a 1985 Toyota Celica with 19" chrome rims, low profile tires and curb feelers with a "antique Car Plate"

For rods of makers still alive, I like the term and early rod.

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (mer) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:08:46 GMT

A term commonly applied to rifles that have been altered to better suit their owners purposes, changing sights, changing stocks, etc. Think of "Grandpa" taking a file to a grip, changing guides to something he wanted, changing old loose ring guide to snake guides.

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (FWdB) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:45:41 GMT

I'd prefer to use "early".

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (oneculm) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:35:05 GMT

Does it really matter?

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (spruce grouse) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:31:21 GMT

There's a difference between being "classic" and being "a classic". My 3 y.o. 7' Jennings with lemon wraps and olive wood seat is classic Jennings but is not (yet) a classic. I would say that a 25 y.o. Bob Taylor might be considered vintage Taylor but not a vintage rod. I think "early" Taylor would be an accurate and apt description.

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (tedgolden) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:30:37 GMT

Classic and Vintage are so overused, both individually and collectively they are interchangeable for all practical purposes. I use both depending on whether or not my style is tending toward banal or pedestrian. "The vintage rod has been professionally refreshed giving it that classic look."

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (Southbranch) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:27:54 GMT

Sporterized??

Re: Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (mer) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:49:12 GMT

softstick wrote:
Rods from as new as the seventies or eighties? For instance, if I buy a Bob Taylor rod that is say twenty five years old, is it considered vintage?

That 25 year old Bob Taylor rod would have been from as new as 1984.

Why not just say it's a Bob Taylor with a born on date of 1984? Early/Old/Late/Vintage Bob Taylor starts to sound like "PreFire/PostFire/Maxwell Leonard".
Is...

Correct nomenclature

feeds@yuku.com (softstick) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:38:29 GMT

I'm curious what others think correct nomenclature is for older rods from modern rodmakers. Obviously we have a term for older rods which is vintage. But at what point does a rod become vintage? Is it after the rodmaker has passed away? Is it rods more then a certain number of years old? Rods from as new as the seventies or eighties? For instance, if I buy a Bob Taylor rod that is say twenty five years old, is it considered vintage? Do we term it an "early" Bob Taylor rod? An...