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        <![CDATA[ 1940 or 50s 9 1/2-foot light salmon rod with extension butt, an amber Tenite winding check, wrapped in red jasper tipped with pongee, and with

Chubbague female ferrules (maybe):



very high quality male 2-part (Formed slide, soldered barrel) ferrule:



Wes Jordan &#39;27 patent reelseat:



and an aluminum case with fittings very similar to those I&#39;ve seen on 1930s Orvises (Orvi?):








A little help here, please?  Is it perhaps a Chubborvaguebend?

TIA

Dave
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>These were cribbed from the Internet--an Orvis/Montague 9-foot bass rod, which is currently owned by a forum member:
<br>
<img src="http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o256/GregReynolds/OrvisImpregnatedMontagueRod-Bass1.jpg" alt="image">
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I have a photocopy of a early war-time Orvis catalog given to me by forum member Rich Margiotta, but it doesn&#39;t have an illustration... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Greg and Dust,
<br>
<br>
I was aware of the 1948 Orvis/Montague collaboration.  The other Orvis/Montague rods I&#39;ve seen, similar to the one Dust mentioned, were all Manitou style
rods.  I haven&#39;t seen any other specimens pop up that appear to be other models.  A collaboration between Orvis and Montague on this rod could resolve most
of the issues I have with it.  I don&#39;t like to jump to conclusions though.  I&#39;d sure love to see an advertisement for this particular model that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Dustnstuff wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  There was a period of time in the late 1930&#39;s when a financially troubled Orvis, turned to Montague to purchase bamboo blanks. I have learned that the
  blanks were fitted with Orvis hardware in Vermont, and sent back to Montague to be finished. When Wes Jordan arrived he found these blanks and used some of
  them to impregnate. I have a MONTAGUE IMPREGNATED (written on the shaft) signed Orvis, (stamped on the... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: I&#39;m so confused ... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ There was a period of time in the late 1930&#39;s when a financially troubled Orvis, turned to Montague to purchase bamboo blanks. I have learned that the
blanks were fitted with Orvis hardware in Vermont,  and sent back to Montague to be finished. When Wes Jordan arrived he found these blanks and used some of
them to impregnate. I have a MONTAGUE IMPREGNATED (written on the shaft) signed Orvis, (stamped on the end cap) rod in my collection. The frankenrod may just
be an Orvis/Montague from... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Nice analysis, Rex. I&#39;m almost persuaded. I&#39;d take a very small leap &amp; assume it&#39;s been partially rewrapped, and that the reelseat is custom. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well, whatayaknow... 
<br>
<br>
I said above -
<br>

<blockquote>
  I have not seen that winding check on a Monty before (if it is tenite),
</blockquote>I dug through all of my Manitou advertisements, and made a discovery.  I found an early 1930&#39;s advertisement for a Manitou that described it
as having a &quot;<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">hard rubber winding check above grip</span>&quot; - go figure!!!
<br>
<br>
So, we&#39;re one step closer to this originally... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Dave,
<br>
<br>
Thanks for the extra pics.  Makes all the difference. 
<br>
<br>
This rod has the exact signature windings of a Montague Manitou model - alternating colors (usually pongee and purple) in a 7-5-3 wrap pattern.  I don&#39;t
think this could be a coincidence.  I have not seen an originally wrapped Monty with a gap in the silk at the hook keeper (yet), so I believe the rod may have
been refinished, or at least parts of it have been re-wrapped.  I have 2 theories -
<br>

<div... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Butt extension matches those in Bristol catalogs. Wraps look correct as well--but the signature wraps are not typical Edwards. Grip almost works. Heck if I
know.
<br>
<br>
Rex, ideas? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/deepdiverned/reel4sale037.jpg" alt="image">
<br>
and
<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/deepdiverned/reel4sale038.jpg" alt="image">
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Dave,
<br>
<br>
Interesting rod...  Can you post a picture of the entire rod, with the sections side-by-side, and one of the signature windings, if there are any??
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">. . . Rex</span>
<br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">TheMontyMan</span>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;d like to throw Cross into the possibilities here....that male ferrule is very familiar. Just a SWAG.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here&#39;s a thought, and subject to being completely wrong... But. Put aside the case--assume it&#39;s just a case the owner found to protect the rod. So
we&#39;re now down to the rod. Viewing the photos I&#39;m reminded of a series of Salmon rods that the Edwards boys made between &#39;32 and &#39;37. Several
used your Wes Jordan &#39;27 patented reelseat. In fact EWE made rods late in the &#39;20s for vom Hofe that used the identical reelseat. There would have been
extras laying around... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ 1940 or 50s 9 1/2-foot light salmon rod with extension butt, an amber Tenite winding check, wrapped in red jasper tipped with pongee, and with
<br>
Chubbague female ferrules (maybe):
<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/deepdiverned/reel4sale033.jpg" alt="image">
<br>
very high quality male 2-part (Formed slide, soldered barrel) ferrule:
<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/deepdiverned/reel4sale034.jpg" alt="image">
<br>
Wes Jordan &#39;27 patent reelseat:... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:38:40 GMT</pubDate>
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