Does art transcend? Would you stop?

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feeds@yuku.com (Battenkiller) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:52:39 GMT

stickleyboy wrote:
I'd have to use it to tell. But I do like de Kooning.

So... if it looks look art, feels like art, smells like art... sits like art, it is art.

I agree.

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (stickleyboy) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:29:44 GMT

I'd have to use it to tell. But I do like de Kooning.

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (Battenkiller) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:02:55 GMT

If I was there it would have spoiled their little prank because I would have recognized him in a heartbeat. Even if he wore a mask, I would have known that the person was some sort of virtuoso on his instrument. It's amazing that the tone alone didn't draw people to him like the Pied Piper drew rats. Top soloists like Josh Bell draw such a huge sound that it fills your head at close range.

The question then becomes, would these same folks recognize this as art on their...

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feeds@yuku.com (RPL) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:23:09 GMT

Interesting thread. Read the article about the Metro violinist also heard the report on NPR a while back. Not surprised. Says something about the dedication of the federal workforce and its commitment to getting to the office on time! Seriously though, you could hang the walls with Rembrandts, Van Goghs or whatever and people in a subways station would just walk by. On the other hand, I recall a piece about a museum hanging completely shlock art along with works by modern masters and...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (frogmorton) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:36:16 GMT

As Veblen infers there are countless reasons one may stop or carry on, very few of which have to do with a true visceral appreciation of the art. We humans are a complicated bunch. I think, of the group listening, most motives would concern self image rather than the art itself.

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (bluejayee) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:43:37 GMT

Hi Guys, Oh Yeah, Veblen was a philanderer. I think a satirist as well, but an accurate analyst for his time. Pretty hilarious stuff. Jay Edwards

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feeds@yuku.com (tedgolden) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:39:26 GMT

Yes, the twinkle in his eye was a 22 year old co-ed.

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (bluejayee) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:57:07 GMT

Hi Guys, Yes, art does transcend and I too would stop for as long as I could. Veblen seems pretty harsh but I think he had a twinkle in his eye. Jay Edwards

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feeds@yuku.com (FWdB) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:46:33 GMT

Art does transcend, and I would stop.
For me it's music, more than anything else.

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feeds@yuku.com (stickleyboy) — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:05:10 GMT

Ah, Veblen. I love and hate that guy, fellow Swede though he is. Veblen is absolutley right to point out that what we buy, display, and do with our leisure time has to do with claiming status within a social hierarchy. But it is too easy to jump from that point to the cynicism of saying that all judgements are nothing but social climbing or slumming. I mean you can't get away from the fact that I covet a Per Brandin (fellow Swede) quad partly because of the...

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feeds@yuku.com (greg hall) — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:17:38 GMT

I used my leisure time (lunch hour) to read this thread and I think you all have pulled what could have been another drab work day out of the fire for me. Thanks.

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feeds@yuku.com (bluejayee) — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:53:49 GMT

Hi Guys, OK, I watched it and listened to it. Moral Judgement! That's my vote but I won't argue it. "What is this life if, full of care ..We have no time to stop and stare?" " He was Pretty good, that guy. It was the first time I didn't call the cops." Thorstein Veblen in 'The Theory of the Leisure Class' has some arguable views on what we do with our leisure and why we do it. 'The Man with a Hoe' asks similar but broader questions with...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (BlackHillsBill) — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:42:20 GMT

I really wonder why I missed it the first time around, too.
What's more, the reasons I come up with seem pathetically
insufficient.

It would surely be a mean paradox if leisure turned out to
be the only framework within which we could enjoy art, if
our labors somehow kept us from it or were an excuse for
keeping us from it. Because--ask around--most artists will
tell you it requires long, hard labor to make art, and to make
it as well as...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (mr flymph) — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:46:59 GMT

Would I have stopped? No. Had it been Pink Floyd playing "Echoes", "Any Colour You Like", or perhaps, "The Great Gig In the Sky" I not only would have stopped, I"d have been late for work or skipped work altogether.

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feeds@yuku.com (ARTHURK) — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:07:49 GMT

This is a very nice thread I missed. Thanks for bringing it to light.

The situation mentioned reminded me of a 'bamboo shootout' session I organized a few months ago for my flyfishing club. Among the rods used for casting were a PHY 15, PHY Perfectionist, Granger 8040, Carpenter Browntone, Wojnicki, Leonard 50DF, Winston Quad, Aroner Hunt etc. Everyone wanted to try 'famous tapers' without even stopping to ask what to expect in terms of 'feel' and many walked...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (bluejayee) — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:35:08 GMT

Hi Guys, I haven't read the article. I don't have time 'right now.' Leisure is needed to have both appreciation and discernment. So, I can forgive myself and others for rushing past in their haste to live their lives. It's all always before us this moment to appreciate the grains of sand in the dirt, all we have to do is stop. The tragedy is with those who really can't stop or see. Edwin Markham's The Man with a Hoe; "Whose breath blew out the light...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (stickleyboy) — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:30:47 GMT

I found this old thread, enjoyed its themes and thought I'd just reply to point others to it.

Points I especially like from the thread:

1. Both aesthetics and morality involve a capacity to discriminate. But morality and aesthetics are differrent. The capacity to appreciate the action of an E.W. Edwards rod may help you appreciate the difference between right and wrong (and vice versa?). But just because you own a good rod does not make you good.

2....

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (Cane Head) — Tue, 22 May 2007 22:47:15 GMT

I think we all have receptors for whatever type of art form turns our crank whether it be a cane, a particular piece of music, art/artist, or a pair of well formed woman's Wrangler's and/or halter top Those receptors have to be up and running unhindered in order for them to pick up on sensory clues. Sometimes life is just too busy and those appreciation receptors...

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feeds@yuku.com (bswild) — Tue, 22 May 2007 22:12:21 GMT

Reading those stanzas by Stevens made me feel like my hair caught fire. Just a tremendous poet, he was. Did you ever hear the story of him punching out Hemingway? True story. He was at a party in Havana, where Hemingway's sister (I forgot her name) heard him make an unkind remark about Hem's prose. She told her brother, who went and challenged Stevens. I forget the details, but I do know that Stevens knocked Papa on his ass--which makes me wonder how gracefully Hemingway reacted under the...

Re: Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (quashnet) — Fri, 18 May 2007 20:05:16 GMT

Sometimes, hiking along a trout stream, I used to conjure up in my mind passages from Ralph Vaughn Williams' compositions, or a Puccini aria. But all of that changed during one of my trips to the North Slope of Alaska. I was hiking across tundra to get to a particular stretch of river to collect and study Arctic grayling. To shorten the total distance hiked (for tussock tundra is very fatiguing over long distances) I cut far away from the river and the sound of moving waters, intending to...

Does art transcend? Would you stop?

feeds@yuku.com (wvangler) — Thu, 10 May 2007 10:07:48 GMT

In the hands of an average plastic rod angler, would they appreciate the internal and external beauty of an original Payne 100? If you were fishing a run and Joan Wulff moved in upstream of you an ethical distance, would you take notice or simply hopscotch her, grumbling, after fishing your run? If you doled out $3000 for a finely made rod from Tom Morgan and had some of your bonus left over and bought a samemade taper for $500 from an upstart rodmaker, would you immediately infer the...