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        <![CDATA[ Well, we talk about this enough, and I just posted this on fiberglassflyrodders, so I copied it for here, as well.  

Reels are loaded with gunk and corrosion - usually 70 tp 80 years' worth by the time I get them.  They're made out of aluminum, brass and steel, painted, anodized, or bare.  Lubricants oxidize, releasing acids (or cautsic in the case of lithium) form tars and waxes and eventually turn into polymers.  Limestone residues from chalk streams are corrosive to aluminum.  

Reels... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">oddsnrods wrote:</strong>
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  It is thought that Hardy&#39;s used a proprietary product of the time- Zebra Paste for this procedure. 
  <br>
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</blockquote>I just thought that I would let others know that I am quite sure Hardy&#39;s used Zebra Paste in their initial finishing process (to etch aluminum
surfaces) as the box that holds the unfinished winding plates, on the bench next to Alfred Broadley says ZEBRA PASTE.   I attached a... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ An amazing thread. Thanks to whoever preserved it. Well worth re-reading occasionally. Thanks to all who have contributed.
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Pat
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			<description><![CDATA[ Boeshield T-9 spray. 
<br>
I first bought it to protect my salt reels.  
<br>
This stuff is amazing.  
<br>
I sprayed it on a near-frozen Golden West as penetrating oil, hoping to free up the screws - the next day, the reel was working like a new reel. Boeshield
displaces water from hydrated salts and reduces corrosion products, plus it cleans and provides a corrosion barrier - good stuff.
<br>
It has become the product I use for cleaning on reels which are already free from tars and waxes... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey Bulldog, thanks for that very in depth help guide. Now all I need is your postal address so I can send all of my old Hardy,s to you if they end up looking
like your finished product. Great posting ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Even though I&#39;ve been collecting reels for a number of years, I&#39;m still always somewhat surprised at what a difference a careful cleaning can make. And
not just for a reel&#39;s appearance either.
<br>
<br>
A properly cleaned and lubed reel&#39;s parts will even fit better and it will sound and work much better too. And I agree, take some advice from the Antiques
Roadshow--be very careful not to remove or polish away the patina and/or original finish on old reels. If you do, the value... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thank you very much,gentlemen
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			<description><![CDATA[ Monel is Nickel with 35% copper - there is absolutely no aluminum in the alloy.
<br>
<br>
Aluminum is a reactive metal. It does not passivate on its own. Hindium and Duralium are fine-grained, wrought alloys with improved corrosion resistance - they
do not contain large cathodes in their microstructure that promote pitting (as do cast alloys). But they still corrode, and exposed to the weather, will return
to their nascent clays.
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Weak acids passivate aluminum. Moderate alkalies actively... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I would have thought that you would appreciate that not all alloys would indeed corrode with contact with chalk streams and old silk lines which can leave
residue (removable with methyl hydrate). As I wrote, Hiduminium and Duralumin which were developed by Rolls Royce for engine parts, and used for several models
of Hardy reels, do not even corrode in salt water. Then there is Monel metal , another alloy, used for their big game reels which was a very hard alloy totally
impervious to salt... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ the residues from chalk streams are by their very nature corrosive to aluminum.
<br>
Add to that rotting silk line and the reel lying in the back of a shed, weathering in your native, dank environment.
<br>
Any alloy reel will corrode under those circumstances.
<br>
<br>
you don&#39;t have to spend much time on ebay.uk to see examples of chalky Hardy reels. 
<br>
<br>
The example of my St. George has been through the vinegar bath with an intact arsenic bronzing - it didn&#39;t have lampblack... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <br>
I have yet to see a chalky Hardy reel, and I have seen a few. In the days when Hardys were experimenting with early aluminium they did have complaints about
chalky reels. Then they changed the alloy used and it corrected the issue. It seems to me that the black lead finished reels especially are very stable in the
corrosion dept. even reels with a very worn finish, maybe due to their initial bronzing/acid treatment. I think that I might also have a St. George lying
around somewhere.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ BornForSpey, I use Butcher&#39;s Bowling Alley Wax - on everything - rods, reels, even silk lines.
<br>
Another good wax (maybe better and certainly pricier) is Renaissance. I believe Renaissance has a moderate abrasive content, though. (this makes it a very good
choice for rubber side plates) ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ thanks Malcolm, nice information. 
<br>
As an aside, there is no statement on this thread that a dilute vinegar soak with restore a lead finish.  That would be an extrapolation. 
<br>
Vinegar dissolves tarred and waxed lubricants, and dissolves the chalky products of active aluminum corrosion. 
<br>
These materials are not patina, and their continued presence promotes deterioration of valuable, historic artifacts.  
<br>
The weak acid in vinegar also helps to passivate the surface and... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi, I would suggest that the alloy of early Hardy reels would not corrode as such after the finish has been polished up unless used in salt or brackish water.
To prevent any oxidisation though which may leave slight marks on the reel I would be tempted to wax the reel, oil would work as well but would need repeat
applications. A hard caranuba wax should do, buffed up. Interesting to note that many polished up leaded reels are put up for sale as so called
&#39;spitfire&#39; finish reels, which... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Good day
<br>
<br>
I have polished alloy Perfect 4&quot;.
<br>
I use reel for fishing.
<br>
What is the best for protecting it from corrosion ?
<br>
Gun oil or <span style="font-family: Lingwood-Serial DB;">wax ?
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
BornForSpey
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			<description><![CDATA[ Like you, I remember hearing about a fellow in the UK about to take orders black leading reels then likewise heard of him no more, thank goodness. There is a
stove blackening agent called Zeebright which I hear is sometimes used by so called restorers out there (from what Drewett concluded) the give away being the
resulting dull grey finish, which I hear can come off on your hands when handling the reel.
<br>
Out of interest, old wood stoves were black leaded after the newly cast metal was... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Interesting information, I had a hard time believing that seller could continually offer such pristine quality looking reels.
<br>
I think I will skip the wax step on any reels with most of the lead finish intact, good thing you posted this as I was going to clean &amp; wax a few reels
this weekend.
<br>
I heard a couple of years ago that there was someone in the UK who had the leading process down pat and was going to offer this service to collectors who
needed a reel spruced up but have not... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Black lead finishes can be found on many pre WWII reels, especially Hardy&#39;s and Dingley&#39;s. I have done an amount of research (with some advice from the
noted Hardy authority John Drewett in the UK) of how this finish was originally applied. Basically, the bare metal of the newly made reel was &#39;bronzed&#39;
meaning that it was etched with an acid creating a surface to &#39;key&#39; for the black lead finish which was then brushed on very thinly. The finish of
course contained no... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That is a good question.
<br>
I have been applying wax before and seen some of the remaining lead finish lift up onto my finger. Me?, well I follow through with one fine coat and light rub
it out, and make a point not to wax that reel again.
<br>
But a reel that is losing its finish that quickly, will do so waxed or not. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ In response to tiptop&#39;s question regarding cleaning vs. devaluing, I came across this article a while ago by John Drewett and thought it was appropriate as
well as the various methods of cleaning that he suggests.  I have tried different methods of cleaning, not any of the methods Drewett suggests, and am in the
process of trying the Bulldog bath on a couple of reels, just had some trouble locating paste wax suitable for this work.  Butchers is not readily available in
Canada and even... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well, we talk about this enough, and I just posted this on fiberglassflyrodders, so I copied it for here, as well.  <br>
<br>
Reels are loaded with gunk and corrosion - usually 70 tp 80 years' worth by the time I get them.  They're made out of aluminum, brass and steel, painted, anodized, or bare.  Lubricants oxidize, releasing acids (or cautsic in the case of lithium) form tars and waxes and eventually turn into polymers.  Limestone residues from chalk streams are corrosive to aluminum.... ]]></description>

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