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Posts: 62 09/18/2008 23:15	Tags : None I am contemplating on what I should buy for a cane rod. I have been a graphite guy for decades and would like to "advance" and purchase a cane rod. I have always favoured a stiffer butt section for my flyrod, I understand this might be referred to as medium fast-action on cane rods. I am so new to this but may well get into building, it sounds like there is lots to learn. I would like to spend a maximum $300.00 on this cane and I want to place a 2 7/8 Hardy Perfect on it with either a 4 or 5wt. Any suggestions on the kind of rod that would best fits these parameters in the 7'-8' range. Thanks for your time!
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Posts: 3483 09/19/2008 00:21 Local user	Your max for 2 7/8" is a 4wt. line with a little backing. Length for a 4wt= 7-7'6". Rods consider older trade rods by A&F, Sharp, Partridge,H&I, Dunton and LLBean possibly but not likely an Orvis with one tip. Finding a med-fast with your budget is going to be hard but not impossible. Good Luck!!! Dennis Last Edited By: firehole 09/19/2008 00:27. Edited 1 time.
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Posts: 1035 09/19/2008 01:13	Horrocks-Ibbotson Co Tonka Prince 7'-0" 2/2 4 wt Poccono 7'-0" I'm not sure what line wt. Andy and others would know. . . South Bend # 290 7 1/2' 2/2 Line wts varied but mostly a 4 or 5wt Orvis built some one tip rods called the Madison there are the same taper as the battenkill but sell at a lesser price. 7'-0" Heddon made a lot of rods that people like to fish that sell at great prices. You would want to look for a #10 #13 #14 to keep the cost down. They built 7'-6" and 8'-0" rods in several actions. Heddons have different size ferrules which translates into actions. 1 1/2F (16/64) Extra Light Trout 1 3/4F (17/64) Light Trout. This rod has a faster action than the 1 1/2F. It may be to big for your reel. Rods made by Heddon for other other company's are made with the same tapers and different finishes. The major Co. you will see alot. L&C (Lyon & Coulson). Folsom Arms Co. Weber sold them as the Henshall Series. E.K. Tryon Co. sold as Jay Harvey Rods. A one tip rod will cost less. A rod with 2 tips with one tip that is short, can also be a good value. You can also fine nice rods by builders working out of there basements or garages at really good prices. Alan Last Edited By: WatercolorMan 09/19/2008 01:19. Edited 2 times.
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tiptop		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 348 09/19/2008 04:28	You can shorten a WF5 line off the back end by 25 ft. or so and probably get in on your reel with a little backing. That will allow you to look at 5wt. rods too. Also, if you look for a rod that is less than perfect but fishable that will get you down to your price range. You can pick up a Granger, Heddon, or Orvis with a short tip (1" won't hurt fishability at all), repair wrap, or other cosmetic flaws right in your price range. There was a FEThomas Bangor 3/2 rod here on the forum the other day for $325 that had one good tip and one damaged tip in excellent overall condition that would have been worth 3 times that much if it had been perfect. Personally, I would go for an 8 ft. 5wt. rod because it's more versatile if it's your only rod -- but that's just my opinion. Good luck!
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Posts: 3954 09/19/2008 07:02 Moderator	MFRS Take a look in my "images" at the Peerless folder. The rod is a unique rod I have had on the for sale board a couple of times. The tip is an original 7.5' Phillipson Peerless tip, the butt is from a Gene Edwards blank that was matched up to it. The finish work was done by a respected maker and restorationist. It cast a WF5 line very nicely. I have not fished the rod in a couple of years as I have been build my own or finishing out blanks and fishing them. If interested send me a PM. Pete Fishing in the rain!
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canerodscom		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1817 09/19/2008 08:28 Bamboo preacher	MFRS, Not to rain on your parade, but placing a 2 7/8 Hardy Perfect on a $300 7' to 7' 6" 4/5 weight is a little like putting a $100 saddle on a $5 horse. Harry Boyd maker@canerods.com http://www.canerods.com
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firehole		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3484 09/19/2008 11:32 Local user	Harry, I agree with your analogy. A Perfect 2 7/8" especially an older leaded one is a very special reel. Dennis Update: Just noticed on EbXX a really decent 7'6" 2/1 5wt. Sharp Featherweight with a "Buy It Now" for $175. It SOLD!!! Last Edited By: firehole 09/19/2008 17:38. Edited 2 times.
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Posts: 6114 09/19/2008 12:55 Bulldog1935	canerodscom wrote: MFRS, Not to rain on your parade, but placing a 2 7/8 Hardy Perfect on a $300 7' to 7' 6" 4/5 weight is a little like putting a $100 saddle on a $5 horse. I'll take exception with that argument. If you have the two, the foot and balance fits the rod, and it all functions well, a $1000 reel on a $250 rod is just fine - even a rebuilt Tonka Queen. this happens to be the only rod I own that will accept this reel 2-7/8"-long foot. They also happen to fish very well together. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 09/19/2008 13:16. Edited 2 times.
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Posts: 97 09/19/2008 14:11	I agree the Sharps featherweight would be a good buy for starters. its a workhorse rod with the action and line weight you are looking for. If you are lucky you may also get a bit of change left over. www.nichobamboorods.com
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BigTJ		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 525 09/19/2008 14:27	Just sent you a PM, I have a rod built on a Partridge blank that may fill the bill for getting started, medium to fast actioned 7' DT5 or WF6, for $200. Cheers, -John
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MFRS		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 63 09/20/2008 15:59	I am very humbled by the responses, the members here are a wealth of information. I see that I need to learn more to make an informed decision. Dennis, I did look into the Scottie (buy "As Is") and I hesitated, so someone else took the auction, thanks though for the "heads-up". Tiptop, I like your train of thought and I probably will just look and learn for a bit (unless another nice Sharps Featherweight shows up) because I expect my next fishing trip to be in 2009. Thank you very much gentlemen for your knowledgeable responses and hope to return the favours. Gary
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bobbeegee	Agreed	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1948 09/20/2008 16:38	I agree with Bulldog. What difference does it make it if you mate a high dollar reel with a not-so-pricey rod you like or vice-versa? Who was it that made the rule "you must fish a costly reel with a costly rod"? Geez! Bob Go Heels!!!
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kam4		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 83 09/20/2008 21:27	Hi, I have used my 2 7/8 Perfect that is my 4 weight reel for 35 or more years with either my old Hardy marvel 7 1/2 footer or my Granger 7 1/2 or 8 footers. I have fished these rods and reel from Massachusetts to Washington, caught Brown, Brook, Rainbow, Bull, Dolly's, Arctic Grayling and Mountain Whitefish with my Perfect and every time I pull it out of it's case, it overwhelmes me with memories. I'm a flyfisherman, and find the thought of the dollar value of the reel or rod determining whether one uses it is strictly investment mentality that has damaged the sport very severely in my lifetime. Go fish the Perfect. Hardy designed and produced this reel not for strict investment profit, but for the sport. Hope you start building priceless memories with your reel, far more than any dollar value should interfere with. Kenny
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