Could anyone out there compare and contrast the two lengths of this rod? Casting, line wt., fishability... I think most members have the shorter of the two.
I once waggled one (don't remember which length) and thought it quite slow.
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7' vs. 7 1/2' Hardy Marvels
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 spruce grouse |
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Posts: 1108 09/18/2008 13:20 |
Len,
I agree that the 7 1/2-footer is more common, but a search of the board seems to indicate a preference(?) for it's shorter version. If the Marvel started being made in 1925, isn't that too early to be parabolic? Certainly pre-Ritz. How's this for the C.I.? 
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Posts: 3644 09/18/2008 14:00 Moderator |
I'm not too sure that Charles should really get the credit for the "parabolic" rod. I will be the first to say that he helped popularized it...
but that action has been around in other rods. I've got a Fruchting rod manufactured in the 30s in Hudson, NY that has many parabolic characteristic to
it. Like you say, some of the Marvels and other rods also have similar characteristics.
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Posts: 17 09/23/2008 16:29 |
I have a remake of the 7.6 ft version, 3 pce of course, made by Dutch artisan Eric Terluin. It certainly is a slow rod, but I don't consider it to be a
noodle, as some do. It is soft but certainly with an amount of hidden power which enables its use even with some wind. It's action is somewhat similar to
the P&M Colorado. Personally, I like it (a lot). The Marvel is best with a WF4F. An all time classic, highly recommended.
Whether this is a parabolic rod or not: in Europe we have a slightly different approach to the parablic action: 
The red curve is in fact a parabolic mirror. If you relate this image of a parabola to rod action, then the only characteristic is an action throughout the rod, as the Marvel most certainly has. The later Ritz designed PPP's also have this action, which can be slow to fast, but all bend like a parabola. Not all cane rods are parabolics, in fact most are not, as many are somewhat tip actioned. I disagree that the parabolic rod bends more in the butt section: in fact they bend all over, but as the cane gets thicker in diameter it stores more energy and builds up power. The Pezon's PPP are exactly that: Pendulum Progressive Power - as the rods bends the energy is progressively stored and released. |
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Posts: 543 09/24/2008 17:36 |
I have a couple of the 7.5'ers and often fish them with a 3 wt. Versatile, and very portable rod -- my favorite rod. As for the 7'ers, I've seen
one or two listed but rarely. I'll check back into my old Hardy Guides and see what I can find.
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Posts: 291 09/26/2008 19:38 |
Howard.
Just in case you didn´t know, and in addition to Dutch Wim´s reply, there are two Pezon made Marvels in addition to the Hardy made Marvels. One is is the "Marvel" which is a 2 piece 7' for a 5wt, produced in a limited number between 1959 and 1960. There´s also a 7' 2'' "Super Marvel" that was produced in a larger number from 1961 and onwards. This one also a 5wt. They both are of the PPP series of rods and designed by Hans Gebetstroither (spelling?), making them pretty fast actioned dry fly rods and might be concidered the "opposite" to the slow Hardy 3-piece 7½ footer. Hope this helps. Thanks, // Mats |
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Posts: 1111 09/26/2008 20:01 |
Mats,
I didn't know about P&M's Marvels. How are things in Sweden? Catching salmon? |
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Posts: 293 09/27/2008 02:10 |
Ok Howard, all good then.
Things over here? Well, I have some news for you. PM sent. // Mats |
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Posts: 2660 09/28/2008 03:41 Immoderatus Britannicus |
The 7'6" is definitely the more common version of the Marvel , the 7' rods do also appear but not so often.
I also know that Hardy made shorter rods to special order at 6'91/2" (but allegedly only two) - I own one of them. |
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