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Posts: 62 10/27/2008 13:20	Tags : None I want to share my latest and newest Young with the forum.I would also like your opinion on when it was made.I think it is new or close and paint wear is from box. It had no grease or oil on it, no dealers stamp either. It also has a different head on tension screw than I,m used to seeing. Back has some paint missing around edges,handle side near perfect . Has washers on spring posts,and foot is brass but painted black.It was advertized as a 3 1/4,but is 3 1/2,was hoping for smaller one but given condition of this one happy all the same. 40,s or later? Does anyone know when young switched to EX,s series of reels,was in 50,s right? Does box look correct,has no marking on it at all? Thanks in advance for help. daryl ,
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bulldog1935		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6256 10/27/2008 13:24 Bulldog1935	with that hardware, I believe your reel was early wartime - 1940 - it matches my L&C Varden You have a pattern 14a reel The Exes were introduced in 1947, with all the patents applied for in 1945 the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 10/27/2008 13:26. Edited 1 time.
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dder		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 63 10/27/2008 13:39	Thanks bulldog, your Varden is a beauty and tension screw head is same shape. daryl
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bulldog1935		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6258 10/27/2008 13:48 Bulldog1935	If you think about it, from September 1939 until about fall 1946, there was a scramble to come up with anything to sell. So a reel sold right after the war is certainly also possible. I believe the hardware used on these reels shows a concerted effort to extend an existing supply of critical parts made from critical materials. Note that the spring stanchions use a steel washer and small brass rivet, rather than duplicating the machined-from-brass stanchion that is used on the pawls. You only have to go back a year to see a reel where they used the same machined-from-brass stanchion in both locations. If you have an existing supply of the machined stanchions, you can double the number of reels you're going to build by changing the spring stanchion to the cheaper design. But back to the start of hostilities, there was probably an inordinate number of reels given as gifts in 1940 that would remain new in their boxes for a generation. the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 10/27/2008 14:11. Edited 1 time.
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tobewan77		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 38 10/27/2008 14:05	But back to the start of hostilities, there was probably an inordinate number of reels given as gifts in 1940 that would remain new in their boxes for a generation. That's a sad thought, gentlemen receive/buy new reels then off to war they go. Never to return. Edit. Beauty of a reel BTW.
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bulldog1935		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6260 10/27/2008 14:35 Bulldog1935	we always like to wonder about what our historic reels would say if they could. so some of them may have something to say. the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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timmy		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 133 10/27/2008 14:52	I have a Young's perfect who's owner certainly made it home again, and used it until 80% of the paint was gone. It has the same rivets with washers and drag adjuster. www.harrisflyrods.co.uk
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bulldog1935		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6261 10/27/2008 15:09 Bulldog1935	Modern Arms Company, Ltd., , Modarcom, disappeared from 58 Southwark Bridge Road in 1942. just the facts, ma'am. I guess I don't see it as sad, but I do believe it's worth remembering. Timmy, cheers to your reel and its history. the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 10/27/2008 15:16. Edited 1 time.
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dder		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 64 10/28/2008 11:10	I never really thought about the reason it would be left unused but you may very well be right. daryl
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bulldog1935		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6269 10/28/2008 12:00 Bulldog1935	certainly not an absolute to be applied to every mint, boxed reel, but I believe it's a reasonable explanation for seeing more than a few mint, boxed reels from this approximate date. the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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