Ari Hart REMCO
Can anybody help me with the value - this one has never been lined
Thanks,
Bob
Can anybody help me with the value - this one has never been lined
Thanks,
Bob
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Is this a Classic Reel?
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 uintaangler |
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Posts: 883 12/14/2008 15:47 |
tasty looking reel
you go get it bob , and if it's not classic enough for you and them fancy flamed marcello rods you have , send it to me and i'll trade you a ol classic hardy reel , i have seen these reels on bamboo rods and they look nice , i also had the chance to use one last summer and it was a very good reel IMHO as for a value , i have seen these reels go from $350 as a deal all the way up to $800 , as this is a new one ,i'd say $500 plus
Richard
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Posts: 1374 12/14/2008 15:59 |
Not a classic reel as such (it's from the Dutch reel designer Ari 't Hart).
It's a very pretty reel, a bit avant gardistic. The down side of this reel is that it's VERY tiny spool. It has the capacity just slightly larger than the Hardy Flyweight. Jay |
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Posts: 1097 12/14/2008 16:16 |
Jay, nice word invention - avant "gardistic."
 I do know that it is a Hart. I was wondering whether folks consider it a classic, obviously you
don't, and a fair value. Thanks, Bob
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Posts: 3596 12/14/2008 16:34 Local user |
I would say it's worth around $500 + or - $50. The ATH that could be considered a classic and has the most following is the F1 Traun.
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Posts: 1375 12/14/2008 17:55 |
Thank you Bob!
Since I'm infested by the boo virus, I've been loving the traditions. Don't get me wrong, I think the best materials available should be used but the cosmetics of the rod and reel seems to look best when they look traditional. So no large arbor reels, no single foot guides, carbon fiber ferrules, etc for me. How pretty the Remco is, it has it's functional flaws. The original Remco didn't have the horizontal line guard. This resulted in line going tangled around the reel. I already mentioned the narrow spool and capacity. The forward alinement of the reel when mounted on the rod also means that the reel get's in the way of the hands (if you have large hands). But again, that's how I think about this pretty reel. Jay |
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Posts: 6485 12/14/2008 18:08 Bulldog1935 |
My definition of a classic is one that retains its value as the years pass.
So yes, your reel would count. The examples I like to use are Meek reels and Bristol steel rods, which sold for about $25 to $35 in 1917.  
The CPI on that money is about $300+ in today's dollars. The Meek reels are holding or exceeding their CPI in value so they count as a classic. The Bristol rods? Well, you would be doing well to get $20 for one in today's money, so they are merely an old oddity.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 886 12/14/2008 18:12 |
bulldog
very well stated ,
Richard
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Posts: 2319 12/14/2008 19:37 Moderatus Muscae |
An Edward Vom Hofe reel with hard rubber side plates and a "S"-shaped handle must have looked pretty rad in the 1880's. Today it's a
"classic" look and often imitated. The only way to create another true classic look is to choose new tools and materials and to apply fabrication
techniques appropriate to their nature, while imposing upon them a designer's imagination coupled with an understanding of the reel's function. Then
wait a century, and see how much influence the new design has had. I think that the Hart reels are off to a good start.
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over
400 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all
who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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Posts: 82 12/15/2008 06:37 |
One of the definitions of "classic" is "having lasting significance or worth; enduring". I definitely think the Ari reels fall into this category. They have a dedicated following and like bulldog said, retain their value. I have seen various bids for them, with some of the more harder-to-find colored Remco's going for $800 and more. If you look at the http://www.vintagefishing...le.co.uk/arihartreels.htm website which often feature a number of Ari reels for sale, the Remco's are mostly priced at upward of 550 UK pounds (roughly around $825). Whether this is a benchmark for their current value, especially in this buyer's market, I cannot say but they do seem popular whenever coming up for sale. I agree about position of the reel interfering with your casting hand - it seems a bit awkward depending on the length of the cork grip.
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Posts: 152 12/15/2008 06:48 |
There are many definitions of 'Classic' and I think most of them would apply to this reel.
I have a Remco 2000 and it is a beautiful piece of work from the design to the manufacture. Values ranging from $450-$600 are common. I believe that any piece of fishing tackle, and there is only one, that is on display in the Museum of Modern Art is well worthy of being called 'Classic". This reel is, artistically, ATH's greatest accomplishment. |
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Posts: 6487 12/15/2008 09:13 Bulldog1935 |
Sparquero wrote:yeah, but my definition is an easy test, and is not at all subjective. 
CPI = $200 But what's it worth?
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
Last Edited By: bulldog1935 12/15/2008 09:27.
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