What flies hatch in winter , suns out there's a hatch coming off and its about 45 degrees or less?. And, How would you rig up?
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 dqatar |
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Posts: 160 12/26/2008 11:23 |
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Posts: 503 12/26/2008 12:23 |
I have found that in my area (western Wisconsin) a generic fly such as a Parachute Adams or Griffith's Gnat works well. Our fish are not too selective in
the cold weather.
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pittendrigh |
brassies | #2 | ||
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Posts: 198 12/26/2008 13:07 |
dqatar wrote:Brassies. Sometimes following a dryfly, which (here in Montana) they almost never bite. But the dryfly does make it easier to keep track of where the brassie is. Pods of rainbows will often sip midges in surprisingly frozen conditions. Never seem to see browns eating itty bitties in winter.
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Posts: 1498 12/26/2008 13:11 |
On my spring creeks I typically watch for the midge hatches which are numerous. The one fly that always predominates are the small winter Stoneflies.
They're nuts and tons of fun.
Ours go about size 16 or so and you can Google up a generic imitation that would work well. I usually go with small, black Elk Hair ties. Small, dark nymphs to imitate your local bugs do well but I always rely on a #16 GRHE or similar and remember to fish it slowly...and deep! Also most weedish streams have a good population of scuds and if I can't take them on a tan scud (or a friends' tie made from Golden Retriever hair) then somethings wrong! And never forget soft hackles....deep ties in the chilly days of spring. HTH. Jeremy. |
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Posts: 1967 12/26/2008 14:08 |
Olives, Midges as dries and pheasant tails or WD40's or small brassies as droppers, depending on depth.
Also watch for early brown and black stoneflies and fish small stonefly nymphs or skitter dry stones on warm days.... |
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Posts: 2336 12/26/2008 17:13 Moderatus Muscae |
On March 24, 2008, I opened my personal trout season at a little, native brook trout stream in southern New England. I began by turning over a submerged rock
to hold my stream thermometer in place, and found two small Early Black Stonefly nymphs beneath. The water temperature was 6 degrees C (43 degrees F.). So I
guessed that I wouldn't be catching any fish, but still I strung up the Paul Young Midge to make the first casts of the season. I tied on a slender black
nymph and fished a couple of pools in the woods. No fish in evidence, but that was OK. The Red Sox had won their first game of the season, in the 10th inning,
so how could I really think that I needed a trout too? On other winter days at this same stream, I have watched adult Early Black Stones climbing over mounds
of snow at the edge of the water.
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PA Limestoner |
Chauncy Llively's llittle black stonefly | #6 | ||
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Posts: 41 12/26/2008 19:55 |
The late Chauncy Lively of Pittsburgh wrote of an early black stonefly dry fly pattern in the April 1974 issue Of Pennsylvania Angler. It was tied on size 20,
fore and aft hackling trimmed flat above and below the shank with scissors. Slight dubbing between the hackling, and the piece de resistance was the wonderwing
dorsal wing. A wonderwing was made by stroking the hackles barbules on a dry fly hackle in the opposite direction and coating with vinyl cement (Flexament
works too). It was then tied on by the hackle tips. The wonderwing was incredible in the way it simulated the venation pattern of the natural's wing. Mr
Lively developed almost all of his dry flies with the aid of a slant tank. Dick Talleur was mesmerized by Chauncy's tying skills, and one of our
contributors, Hoagy B. Carmichael, was a frequent fishing companion of Mr. Lively. Chauncy even published a description of a fly pattern called The Little
Orange Mayfly in honor of Hoagy. If anyone is so interested, try to find a copy of Chauncy Lively's Flybox, a paperback by Stackpole Books
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flyfshn76 |
here in WV | #7 | ||
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Posts: 12 12/31/2008 14:13 |
As far as the winter fishing here in WV goes right now on my fav stream we have size 18 little black stones coming off sporadicaly(spelling) with size 24 and
28 olive midges coming off. Can't wait till mid Feb when the black stones start to come off heavy. I always like to swing soft hackles in the slower
slack water at the edges of pools and also practicing the chuck and duck method with some larger streamers for the big browns that live in the aforementioned
stream.
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GRASSHOPPER |
little black stones in winter | #8 | ||
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Posts: 7 12/31/2008 21:41 |
Best fly I have found for this winter hatch is a size 18 or 20 Bead Head Black Copper John. Worked really well yesterday on West Virginia's #1 stream. It
gets down deep pretty quick.
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greendrake ll |
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Posts: 1015 12/31/2008 21:47 |
Sent you a PM
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Posts: 626 01/01/2009 01:04 |
Obviously depends on where you're fishing, but in the western states, winter means mostly baetis or midges. Midges are around almost every day, but it
takes a nice calm, almost windless day for fish to get on them. Baetis tend to hatch on the warmer days, say 40 degrees or so, and then can produce some great
dry fly fishing. A good baetis hatch will get the fish going even on a breezy day, and baetis seem to emerge well even on windy days. Of course various nymphs
can work too, but you asked about hatches.
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Posts: 108 01/01/2009 01:26 |
Deschutes - even on the coldest days, you can almost always count on some BWO coming off around noon to three. Midge emergers seem to work as well as a BWO
emergers.
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Posts: 13 01/01/2009 02:14 |
Grasshopper I know exactly what stream you are talking about, actually going there on Monday and will be giving the fish a hard time. Glad you did good.
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Posts: 169 01/07/2009 12:26 |
flyfshn76 wrote: Im a WV"en too , what are of WV are you fishing.? |
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crcaddis |
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Posts: 283 01/07/2009 14:03 |
Midges can happen any time on our spring fed rivers, but for bigger bugs...olives and caddis..we need a warm evening and warm temperatures on the following
day. Last Friday was in the mid forties and it warmed up to 50 that night...Comfy 70 degrees and rising fish all day Saturday...Small gray caddis,,bought a
size 18..some larger tan caddis. Cheers.
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flyfshn76 |
in WV | #15 | ||
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Posts: 14 01/19/2009 01:03 |
dgatar the stream that I am referring to is the Elk River. The river is starting to rock with the little black stones, sizes 22 an 24, but the size 16's
and 18's are slowly starting to come off and by the end of this month thru mid march they should be starting to come off heavy.
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