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Eric Peper	Storing and/or Transporting Rods		Lead	[-]
Posts: 70 12/31/2008 15:36	Tags : None Most comments I have seen related to placing rods in tubes recommend storing the butt section ferrule down so that the grip evens out the "bulk" distribution at the top of the tube and restricts movement. I did this for years until running into John Channer about 6 or 7 years ago on the San Juan. He was watching me stow a rod, and told me to stop. He said you'll never put a rod into a tube that way after you've damaged a ferrule as the section hits the bottom of the tube. He said he always stows the rod grip down in the tube. Since that time I've always stored the rods grip down. Comments? Opposing opinions? Rationale? EP
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dale		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 344 12/31/2008 16:33	I'd be similarly interested in comments. When I put my rods into their rod bags, the butt goes in ferrule first and the tip section also goes in ferrule first. Mids, if any, go in tip end first. I would not want to put the rod bag into the tube with the opening first! It might be a bit difficult to put the butt section into the rod bag butt first (though I've never tried this)... I guess what I am getting at is that what Channer is recommending is sorta counterintuitive...
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pvansch1		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4185 12/31/2008 16:47 Moderator	I store mine tips and butt up all ferrules down. I slide them gently into the tube making a ring with my thumb and fore finger to keep the guides from hitting the lip of the tube. I take care not to drop them into the tube and bounce them on the bottom. Pete "Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul" Grateful Dead
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tedgolden		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2668 12/31/2008 17:28 Moderator	I would think I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than damaging a ferrule when tubing a rod with the grip "up." Still, I must admit, people are killed by lighting every year. I think it is more a question of basal anality.
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dale		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 345 12/31/2008 17:34	Ted, I think you mean Anal Basality!
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rckdr		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 26 12/31/2008 19:50	How do you store rods that have pointy ferrule plugs like Payne's?
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Cadnorods		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 81 12/31/2008 20:22	Small disc of foam in the bottom of the tube. Happy New Year! Stuart
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greendrake ll		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1013 12/31/2008 20:22	I agree with John. Why do you think most rods that come with ferrule plugs(notice,I didn't say all) have the ferrule plug attached to the bag?To keep from losing them was not the only reason for them being attached there.When a tube is dropped into a rack or accidentally dropped on the ground its the bottom of the tube that takes the thump.What would you rather have bouncing off the bottom of the tube? The butt cap and male ferrules of the tips or unprotected female ferrules.
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Eric Peper		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 71 12/31/2008 20:46	Thanks for that feedback. I have a couple of Hardy plastic rods that came with lovely pewter ferrule plugs, and they were shipped to me "plugs up," and they've always been put away that way. My new 2-pc Thramer (with a ferrule plug) arrived "plug up," and I suspect it will stay that way. I am still interested in more feedback from makers however. EP
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greendrake ll		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1014 12/31/2008 20:57	"I'm still interested in more comments from makers however." Eric I'm currently in the middle of making # 19 and the strips for #'s 20 & 21 are roughed out and patiently waiting.Does that count?
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creakycane		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1982 12/31/2008 22:04	On new rods, I tend to store the rods as they were sent from the maker. I have a 3 pc Ed Fody with screwlock seat and largish grip that I store grip up next to the tips, because that is how it came and it fits better that way. Ditto my 5 wt Jennings with screwlock. Others came female ferrule up - a Brackett Winston, for example, fresh from Glenn almost 20 yrs ago.. I would not store that any other way because thats how I got it. I am a creature of habit! All that said, I don't think it really matters - maybe if you have very thin rod bags and no padding in the tube bottom - and some very bad luck!?
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john channer		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 681 12/31/2008 22:39	My logic is that the most fragile part of each section is the thinnest part, you wouldn't put the tip in tip top down, why would you put the butt in with the most easily damaged part down? Old rods mostly you don't have any choice, the bags are shaped to fit with the grip up and the tubes are too small to put the rods in any other way, but new rods generally can be kept any way you want. john
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bluno		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 147 01/01/2009 04:13	I store the rods in the way I received them from the maker. In all cases the grip is up. Ones, I had a problem: A tip of a rod got a slight set, which was caused by the grip. I guess this is a different issue: The diameter of the tube was too small (the tube was original). A question to the rodmakers: Why is no cushion at the bottom of the tube? A foam or cork strip would make the tube only slightly longer? bluno
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Nympher1	foam in the bottom	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 315 01/01/2009 08:50	As has been said already, a piece of semi-dense foam sent to the bottom of the tube will eliminate any concern about damaging a female ferrule, I've got to tell you though, in the 30+ years I've been fishing bamboo I've discovered several creative ways to damage a rod, none of which involved the rod tube...generally speaking, that is the least likely place a rod is going to get damaged. regards and happy 2009... ron
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Eric Peper		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 72 01/01/2009 10:08	greendrake ll wrote: "I'm still interested in more comments from makers however." Eric I'm currently in the middle of making # 19 and the strips for #'s 20 & 21 are roughed out and patiently waiting.Does that count? Sure does. I'm just seeking as many responses as I can to get a cross section. FWIW, my most recent rod from AJ arrived ferrule up/grip down. Another, a 3-pc, purchased from Carmine Lisella arrived that way as well. EP
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gmflyfish	Sweetgrass and foam	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1104 01/01/2009 11:32	New Sweetgrass Rods come with a foam spacer in the bottom of the tube. Protects the rod in shipping an storage
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tedgolden		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2669 01/01/2009 13:13 Moderator	Isn't the most important part of this tube/rod relationship that the tube be the correct length so that there is no play in the rod when in the tube? If this is the case it would eliminate/minimize any slide hammer effect greatly reducing the consequence of impact.
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WatercolorMan		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1221 01/01/2009 13:23	Orvis makes its bags so you have to put the butt up . . .
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Eric Peper		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 73 01/01/2009 13:27	tedgolden wrote: Isn't the most important part of this tube/rod relationship that the tube be the correct length so that there is no play in the rod when in the tube? If this is the case it would eliminate/minimize any slide hammer effect greatly reducing the consequence of impact. I trimmed a 1/2" off one non-original tube to ensure a snug fit I've also put a piece of dense, protective foam into the base of any tube that didn't already have it. Can't help it if I'm paranoid. EP
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bluno		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 148 01/02/2009 03:12	I have a another question: How to you place a foam pad at the bottom of the tube without twisting, if you do not have plug with the inner diameter of the tube to push it down? I like to use the same material as used in the rod caps.
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freestoner.fiberglassflyro...		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 01/02/2009 03:34	Sheet foam is functionally the same thing. You can simply push a slightly oversize square of it to the bottom with the rod in the sock. My own problem is slightly different- I get rods shipped in oversize tubes, with foam, bubble wrap, or newspaper jammed in the bottom in order to take up the remaining space. But I prefer using an appropriately sized tube- which leads to problems when I try to retrieve the packing material stuck in the bottom of the rod tube. Frankly, it's driven me to distraction on more than one occasion- because just about the only thing that can really work is a very narrow and long-handled grabber using a squeeze handle attached to a thin wire claw clamp at the end. I saw one for sale once at a surplus store, but it wasn't long enough- only about 24". Without that, my track record of getting stuck packing material out of the bottom of a fly rod tube is about 0 for 10.
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