If I wanted a matte hard oil-impregnated finish on the blank, but a bubble-free, transparent, low-gloss finish on wraps, what would you recommend for each
step? Best to transition from blank through wraps with a couple coats of oil, or go straight to a varnish? Also, would you still get a nice bond between blank
and grip / seat if pre-finished in oil? What typical "fishing chemicals" (Red Mucilin, denatured alcohol, Scotch, white gas, etc.) should I watch out
for with an oil finish? Thanks, Chris
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Posts: 2635 01/12/2009 23:54 Moderator |
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Scotch can be a problem with that type of finish, however, if your use a good single malt in volume, any noticable problem with your finish will become
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Posts: 1934 01/13/2009 23:47 Bamboo preacher |
matte hard oil-impregnated finish on the blankChris, I'm not sure I understand what you refer to by the phrase above. With an impregnated blank of any type I would finish the wraps as usual. If I then wanted to dull the wrap finish a little, I would use 3M Perfect It polishing compound on the wraps only. Harry
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Posts: 2637 01/14/2009 00:17 Moderator |
Hi ya, Harry. Well, it would be an oil finish blank, which I'm assuming does penetrate the surface of the blank, maybe 10% or something like that.
That's what I meant by impregnated. Sorry to be muddy-headed. What kind of oil? Basics of application? I don't want a "glass-smooth, glossy
varnish finish" vaunted in dealer catalogs. I'm looking for something between a Satin and Eggshell finish, to use interior paint terms. The wraps
would go on after, I suppose. I'd like a transparent/translucent look, about 2-3 "shininess" grades higher than the blank, but still a notch or
two below "Gloss". Does one need to use something like a cut down version of the oil first and then coat it with ??? Thanks for any help! Chris
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Posts: 1935 01/14/2009 08:33 Bamboo preacher |
Okay, I gotcha. What you want is multiple coats of raw (not polymerized) tung oil on the blank. I'd suggest a coat a day for a week, another coat a week
for a month, and a coat a month for a year (old gun stock recipe). That will result in a beautiful semi-gloss finish. Gillespie's is a good brand. You
probably do not want Formsby's Tung-Oil Finish. That's a very thin tung oil based varnish.
Finish the wraps with any good varnish. The tung oil base works almost as a primer for the varnish and gives a very good adhesion. When the wraps look perfect with high gloss, move to the automotive polish described above. Incidentally, some say tung oil is a great finish for rods. Others say it's not so good. Not sure what I think about it on rods, but it sure looks nice on a curly maple gun stock. Harry
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I would use satin Arm-R-Seal for the entire project. You can brighten up blank or wraps with a Sally's Sand Turtle gleemer. Don
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Posts: 465 01/16/2009 21:25 |
Chris -- I recently picked up a R.W. Lancaster "Tricorythodes" 7.5' 2/2 built in 1983 that has a tung oil finish. Judging from the grip color,
I'd say the rod has been fished regularly. The finish has held up very well and looks somewhere between an impregnated rod and a varnished one. The
thickness of the finish is very thin compared to most varnished rods I've seen. I have no idea how many coats or how it was applied but I'd go crazy
following Harry's old gun stock recipe!
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Posts: 456 01/17/2009 13:43 |
My two year old Lancaster Big Horn rod has the same type of finish. It's appears thin, but it's a really beautiful finish. I wish I knew exactly how
Bob puts his finishes on his rods. I keep a good coat of Minwax pastewax on the rod for extra protection, but it sure has a beautiful sheen to it even without
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Posts: 39 01/17/2009 14:41 |
Couldn't you rub out a varnished rod with fine steel wool to take out some glossiness?
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