Surprised by this 7042 taper

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57Clemson	Surprised by this 7042 taper		Lead	[-]
Posts: 6 01/18/2009 19:41	Tags : None Several weeks ago when I introduced myself to the board I mentioned that I was fixing to build a Gould RR108,:my pet:Since then I have been thinking about other 7042..tapers like a 202E,or a Payne or lots of others.Too many tapers and too little time. Then I started thinking "why not just put a bunch of tapers on the table, average them out ,and come out with this new and sensational 7042 ,or possibly a peice of crap" I took 7042 two piece tapers from 24 builders that were listed on Hexrod and David Ray's library.I removed the high and low numbers from each station of each builders taper and averaged them out. What I found wasn't new or improved. It was ,for all practical purposes ,what looks like an almost dead ringer of the Gould RR108.Surprized the heck out of me!! The builbers whose tapers I blended include:Gould ,Holbrook. Payne, Winston, Wilcox, Tyree, T&T, Smartt, Powell, Leonard, Granger, Maurer, Degere, Bowles, Bogart, Young, Heddon, Garrison, Dickerson, and Cattanach, I know,maybe I drink too much or have too much time on my hands. Retirement is a beautiful thing!!! I'm going to build the blended taper. What do you guys think.? Blend--67-76-95.5-111-125-139-152-164.5-177-185-207-220-236.5-251-270-294 Gould--67-77-95-112-127-140-153-166-179-192-205-218-232-250-271-294 Last Edited By: 57Clemson 01/18/2009 20:31. Edited 1 time.
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thousandstar		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 139 01/18/2009 21:03	I think that is a super cool and interesting thing to do. The "Motley" taper, as it has a little of them all. Please post a follow up on your impression of the finished rod.
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BigTJ		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 667 01/18/2009 22:28	Brings new meaning to the saying "no taper is new or original". That pretty much proves it.
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1sweetcane	Smart Thinking	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 01/19/2009 02:16	Now that is a very creative way of looking at tapers or it is the most obvious overlooked way to find middle ground between certain tapers. I never would have thought of that so thanks for sharing.
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BigTJ		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 668 01/19/2009 12:41	This averaging technique is well known and discussed in the Maurer book in context of blending two tapers. I think the idea has probably been around a long while, perhaps almost as long as cane rods have been around. In my mind blindly averaging tapers is a bit like indexed mutual funds. You have a great chance at getting a good casting rod, compared with focusing on your own tapers where you do things intentionally to bring out a certain action in the rod. Focusing on your own tapers gives you a better chance of hitting a "home run" but also a chance of making a real dog. I would rather understand what makes a taper a taper, and what different things do to the action of a rod, than blending a bunch of other tapers and hoping I get a good rod. But that's just me and doesn't mean the homogenized approach isn't a good way to go, it's all fun no matter which approach you take.
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57Clemson		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7 01/19/2009 17:58	BigTJ, I have never built a blended taper and am not necessarily advocating such. My point was that I was curious and did the math and was surprized that the result was almost identical to the Gould taper I originally wanted to build. I thought the result was pretty cool as well.
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BigTJ		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 669 01/19/2009 18:26	57Clemson, My comments aren't directed towards you, they are just general ideas on the topic. To each his own I certainly don't have the credentials to criticize anybody's approach. So please keep this in mind. Best, -John
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57Clemson		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 01/20/2009 00:08	John, I certainly didn't take your responses in the wrong spirit. You are a guy that I can learn a lot from. I appreciate it. Dave Wallace
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BigTJ		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 670 01/20/2009 10:35	Dave, Likewise, thanks. Let us know how the rod turns out, I bet it will be a gem. -John
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