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Posts: 17 01/18/2009 13:29 |
My new (and first bamboo)Highland Mills has a paper that was sent with the rod about primary care and use of the rod and mentions alternating tips but
doesn't talk about why. Obviously I thought there were 2 tips in case one was damaged but the paper makes me think there is a more appropriate purpose for
the second tip? What the reason for alternating?
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Posts: 407 01/18/2009 13:34 |
I believe it's to prevent sets from forming, but to be honest. I've used rods with only one tip and never got a set.
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Posts: 48 01/18/2009 14:56 |
I asked a maker years ago why bamboo rods come with two tips and his answer was because of the glues and varnishes used in the past. On a full day of fishing,
by the middle of the day enough moisture got into the tip that it started to "soften" so at lunch time, you switched tips.
I'm told this is not an issue at all with modern glues and varnishes. I've always heard that you should alternate tips (every other fishing trip) to get them to wear evenly.
Fishing with bait is like swearing in church.
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Posts: 1413 01/18/2009 18:09 |
I always wondered what the durability was of bamboo.
Is a 50-100 year old bamboo fly rod still the same as when it was built? I know that graphite fibers also 'dies' (fibers, scrim, etc. coming apart microscopically). Does bamboo fibers die similarly (just fished and not abused that is)?
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Posts: 23 01/21/2009 22:24 |
if the 100 year old rod was properly cared for...and never used....I would think it should show no change. If it were properly cared for... and used...which is
part of proper care, if it were used every day, I'd vote maybe it would have some set. How is change measured? Im thinking only the original owner and user
could tell how much it changed.
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Posts: 1997 01/21/2009 22:29 Admin |
I have a collection of 3/2 rods, most from the 1900s, 1920s & 1930s. All have been regularly fished, and none have sets in either tips. These are 80 - 100
year old rods. Sets IMHO opinion are the result of playing a fish incorrectly or using the wrong tackle (as in catching a 25-lb fish on an 8', 4-wt rod).
And remember that many of the better makers furnished tips that exhibited different actions... one might be a dry fly, one a nymph. Or one slightly faster than
another.
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Posts: 457 01/21/2009 23:03 |
The two tip thing is more tradition than anything else. There is, however, a practicle side to it. Someone mentioned in another thread recently that they had
snapped a tip top off removing ice from it and he went to his vehicle and got the spare tip and continued fishing. Today's more durable adhesives prevent
those, once prevalent fishing sets, however, it is nice to have that spare tip so you don't have to give up your entire rod while an accidentally broken
tip is out for repair.
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Posts: 1950 01/22/2009 09:39 Bamboo preacher |
For quite some time I have promoted the theory that the dual tip tradition was due as much to shipping difficulties as anything else. Remember that years ago
people were likely more frugal, and few people owned more than one fly rod.
Suppose you snagged and broke a tip on your only rod during a fishing trip in late April or early May of 1940. If you were fishing a single tipped rod, your season might well be over. There was no air mail, and no UPS store in the local strip mall. Parcel post back to the maker of the rod might take 3-4 weeks. That takes you to late may or early June. If the maker was busy, it might take him a few weeks, or even a coupla months (not much money in warranty repairs) to get to your broken tip. Then you fight the Parcel Post system trying to get the repaired tip back to you from the maker. Before you know it, you're looking at late August. Good bye fishing season.
Harry Boyd
maker@canerods.com http://www.canerods.com http://www.canerods.blogspot.com http://www.bamboorodschool.com |
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Posts: 60 01/22/2009 10:49 |
Harry - That really makes a lot of sense. It helps make sense of the spare spring and tongue found in the older Hardy reels too. I always thought it was a
result of the production houses who realized that selling the rods with two tips (absorbed in the sale price) would minimize inevitable repairs. As noted they
were using different glues and producing rods at much higher volumes than makers today (quality control challenges). Observing many vintage rods found today it
seemed if you broke a tip by a few inches it became the streamer or heavy tip and not until both broke did it get sent in for repair. JM2cents - always a fun
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Rob Smith www.pentaluxbamboo.com |
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