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razora |
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Hello everyone, I am new to the forum and have been wanting to build classic style reels for some time now. I had some experience on an older South Bend lathe
in high school 9 years ago and did find it to be satisfactory. I am planning on a set up in my garage but I am a bit cramped for space. I was wondering how
well a smaller "mini" lathe (7x12, 7x14) at around 100 lbs would fare for the precision work of reel making. Would there be a small lathe that is
high quality enough for this type of work? I unfortunately do not have access to a larger lathe at the moment. thanks
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Holireels |
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Hey Razora,
I'd suggest for both cost and size going with the 9" x 19" bench lathe. Seems everyone puts their name on the same unit coming from over seas. Enco, Grizzly, Harbor Freight, Jet............all the same machine painted a different color. Prices range from around $700 to $900ish. The littler 7" machine might work with a larger chuck, but the 9" x 19" comes standard with a 4" - 3jaw, which works well for reels 3" OD or smaller. They are good little machines...........Good luck and have fun. |
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PA Limestoner |
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The amount of precision needed to make a reel is really pushing the limits of the smaller lathes. Many don't have the power to easily cut through aluminum
like the old school shop South Bend. I would look for a short bed version of the South Bend model A, or a late 60's to 70's Craftsman Commercial or
Atlas Clausing (short bed as well). All of these lathes have the power crossfeed which gives very smooth facing cuts on sideplates. The English Myfords are
also configured as the above lathes. Also, all are available with quick change gear boxes, which make machining so much simpler. Be careful about buying used
SB's, as the headstock bearings are a factory replacement item, so have a knowlegeble friend check the bearings for wear and runout. If garage space is
tight, just leave her car outside.
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saguache |
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I purchased the Grizzly G0602 when they came out. It's a 10"x22" & a very nice, well tuned outa the crate lathe. Great bang for the buck.
Only takes 2'x5' space, plenty room left for car.
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ttrotter |
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Here's one John Pickard has for sale. Dont know if it is suitable for reels or not, but I'd call John. I asked the same question before on another
forum, and got 100% "no" responses on mini lathes for reel work. PA Limestoner is giving you good advice here.
http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/20781 |
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reelmaker |
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PA Limestoner wrote: Very good advice....my first lathe was an old SB, and as I was about to learn,,a very well worn one....I replaced the headstock bearings but could never get it to the tolerance I wanted....I finaly moved it aside for rough work and went out and bought a new lathe that I could use collets with.....which in retrospect,,I wished I had done at first.....would have saved a lot of time and frustration...rm |
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razora |
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Thanks alot for the info everyone...I like how you can fit the small lathes anywhere but I think im going to try and find a short bed SB...not too many around
here for inspection though.
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stephen kiley |
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look at the harbor fright 8x12 its realy a 8x14,weighs in at about 200lb has a 3/4 hp motor and is supposed to be accurate.on sale with in store flier for
$450,i ordered one for making ferrules and am supposed to get it today or next tue. thanks steve
please check out my profile for information and availability on my mosaic and north star rods.
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razora |
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I called harbor freights customer service line on the 9x20 geared head lathe to ask a few questions...a foreign lady answered after about a 20 min wait....she
kept saying she did not know what i was saying and could not understand me
....happened twice. I dont know about the warranty of that company....
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stephen kiley |
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lathe master is the same lathe with more tooling and better customer support and warranty.thanks steve
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razora |
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stephen kiley wrote:Did you order a lathe master or the harbor freight?...thanks for the info! |
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Razora,
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stephen kiley |
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i got the HF because i am doing a bunch of modifications that might void a waranty and the money i saved goes to more modifications.i eventualy want to turn it
into a cnc lathe but thats in the future.steve
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razora |
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Stephen- I like the idea of modifications....Ive been looking at different online sights and it looks as though the 9x20 machines are all the same machine just badged differently. Ill be checking out grizzly and a few others though to really see what im paying extra for (besides the CS). Thanks again!!! |
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Hi Guys SB
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PA Limestoner |
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Stefan, you are one lucky man to work on a fleet of Schaubllins. Do you also use Deckel FP Mills? For Razora's needs, the US made Hardinge would also serve
him very well.
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sbrusky |
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PA----Yes , a hardinge d-59 with compound slide, cut-off slide, turret and tailstock would be perfect.
I've seen them for pretty cheap, (2-4K) and in pretty good shape. That is what I would get if I didn't have schaublins. Too bad the hardinge HVL tool room is 60K new. The HVL copies are just as nice, new for 20K Would sure love to have one of those. No, I don't have a deckel I use a Bridgeport, I think the bridgepsort type machines are a little more user friendly and they are a big enough to do most any work I do. Also, any kind of tooling is readily available being an R8 spindle. I worked on Schaublin Mills when I was in Switzerland----Boy are they nice, so are the deckels---wow. Just not big enough for me and the tooling is major expensive. SB.
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