Would be interested in any comments or opinions on this Phillipson.
Thanks.
Bob
Thanks.
Bob
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8 1/2' Phillipson "Dry Fly Special"
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 bobbeegee |
8 1/2' Phillipson "Dry Fly Special" |
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Posts: 2627 04/28/2008 18:42 |
This length and line weight Peerless can often be found at a very reasonable price, certainly for much less than the 8', 7-1/2', and 7' rods. I
like it better for what I use it for than the 1/2 ounce lighter 8-1/2'--that is, as a true reach-out-there-on-a-windy-day 6 wt (either a Peach DT or a
Clear Creek WF, depending on). If memory serves, I believe Drew also fishes the Dry Fly Special. So maybe he will comment. And, of course, I can't help
myself. To me it's real purty. I'm smitten. The coppery reel seat and winding check and those nifty spiral windings are to me attributes of a rod
that can flaunt it because it's got it. But it's no delicate shrinking violet. Phillipson made 6 wts with oomph. This one's a lot of fun casting:
strong enough to put bigger wind-resistant dry flies where the fish are. It's the perfect rod for one of those big amber ant outbursts at Henry's
Fork. Other fishermen naturally like to show they are no dodos, so when they see the rod, almost invariably you'll hear from them, "Nice
Phillipson!"
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Posts: 810 04/30/2008 14:00 Angry Andy |
Bill,
I have an 8 1/2 Peerless DFS. Oomph it has! I use it on larger streams when I'm slinging streamers, weighted nymphs, and things of the woolly bugger ilk. Truly a bully boy of the 6 weights.  Its unique winding pattern and
copper nose cone sets its appearance apart from any other rod I've ever had.
"You can't make new old friends"
 Andy
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tiethefly |
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Posts: 983 04/30/2008 20:15 |
I own a Dry Fly Special in the 8.5 foot length. The model is a Pacemaker with the "51" number on it, showing it was built in 1951, a magical year for
Bill Phillipson. The Dry Fly model weighs 1/2 oz more than the standard model coming in at 5.5 oz. Terrific rod to fish DT 5 or 6 WF line and it can toss some
serious line in windy conditions turning over line and leader.
Robert
"So I will arise and go now, to meet you there early and I hope , often." Arnold Gingrich "The Joys of Trout"
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Posts: 2631 04/30/2008 22:43 |
We deserve such fun, Andy--the kind to be had only with a good 6 wt. When I can no longer manage a 6 wt, I'll hang it up. I'm hoping a 25" 'bow will pull me under first so I can call it a standoff. Nice rod, Bob. |
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Posts: 8 05/02/2008 12:15 |
I had a DFS in Montana and used it a lot. I think mine was a 5wt - not a 6 wt but I could be mistaken. It was a powerful rod that delivered beautiful casts -
short and especially long. I just got a new "used" DFS and I think that one is for 6wt that I have not cast yet.
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Posts: 2455 05/03/2008 01:23 Moderator |
The Dry Fly Special was made in both varnished and impregnated models. Both weigh in at 5 and a half ounces. I can not discern any significant difference in
the two other than the cosmetics. As Bill mentions, I do like this rod a lot and never head west without it. It will handle large dry flies and it's
ability to cast long distances makes it worthwhile as a streamer rod. I like it with a DT 6 or WF 7. One interesting varriation offered by Phillipson was a
Peerless DFS which included a female ferruled grip which accepted the mid and tip section to make a 5 1/2' two piece rod. Haven't had the opportunity
or interest to try this version but it is a bit of fun marketing. The DFS was also private label manufactured for Bean, A&F, and Cooks (as the Ed Hunter
Approved). I hope to be in Central Oregon in a month with the Salmon Fllies fluttering and a DFS in hand.
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Posts: 74 02/06/2009 13:03 |
What do you think a full length excellent condition Peerless DFS should go for?
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Posts: 2703 02/06/2009 23:51 Moderator |
I would think $550 would be about right in this uncertain market.
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nesterbc |
8 1/2 Phillipson dry fly specialI | #9 | ||
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Posts: 42 02/07/2009 10:02 |
I agree that they throw some serious line. Used mine in British Columbia last year and i handled some big fish.
The guide i was with in Castlegar asked me if he could cast the rod and he stood in the drift boat stripped out a whole lot of line and just flung it out there effortlessly something i dont think i could achieve even in the best of circomstances. After using it all day i,m not sold on the hammer handle it makes my hand fall asleep ialso need a tip for it are there any out there. |
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doloresboy |
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Posts: 401 02/07/2009 12:25 |
I have 2 DFS's. A Paramount varnished rod and the Peerless impregnated. As stated, they are strong 6wt. rods. Great for bigger water and windy days.
After reading this thread I weighed both on my kitchen digital scale. The varnished rod weighed 5 3/8 oz. and the impregnated rod weighed 5 1/8 oz. Go
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slate river |
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Posts: 42 02/07/2009 21:45 |
I also have an 8.5 DFS. A great rod that can cast alot of line with big flies such as stimulators, hoppers and weighted streamers. I love to use mine on
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teter |
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Posts: 1199 02/08/2009 00:36 |
I have one of the last Peerless DFS models, the one with the plug-in grip for a midge rod. I have never tried the shortened version, but the 3-piece rod is a
terrific 6/7 weight for big trout on dries or to throw streamers into the wind. I caught more trout on this rod in one day than I have with some rods in a
year or two, and it's none the worse for the wear. Heck, I even like the nose-cone winding check. I'm thinking about taking it bonefishing next month.
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Posts: 1293 02/08/2009 14:04 |
I've noticed that most people who have owned and used the Phillipson rods in the 8' and 8.5' sizes keep fishing them year after year. Now I live
and fish out West my whole life and there is talk about them being Western style rods. Big flies, big windy days and that is accurate. But I also find them
capable of some very delicate work as well. I think Phillipson had this taper thing figured out by the time he started his own company.
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Marshall8 |
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Posts: 772 02/09/2009 11:05 |
I recently acquired the Ed M Hunter Approved rod with some cracked plastic on the grip. Its a real delight to cast and the taper is a little slight compared
to the Granger 8642. It weighs in at 5.0 ounces. I have read quite a few posts about this rod being a DFS taper but this one is not it. It also has the 17
and 11 ferrules unlike the DFS 18 and 12. Is it probable that this Hunter rod came in several tapers?
I owned the DFS Peerless and it is a super casting very powerful rod. I ended up selling it because after using it over 4 hours my hand was usually chafed pretty bad entering the blister stage. This does not happen with the lighter rods that easily handle a 5wt line. Marshall |
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greg hall |
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Posts: 222 02/09/2009 23:20 |
The Dry Fly Special rods were introduced in the 1952 Phillipson catalog. They were available in the Pacemaker, Powr Pakt, Paramount, Premium varnished rods and
the impregnated Preferred and Peerless rods which along with the 4 piece Smuggler were new additions to the catalog in 1952. This was also the year that the
wraps of the Pacemaker were changed from green nylon tipped yellow to olive green tipped black.
I have owned and fished both the Peerless DFS and the Pacemaker DFS rods. My impression was that the Pacemaker had a slightly livelier action than the Peerless. Both were definite 6 weight rods. |
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Here are a couple of DFSs I have owned. I never got a chance to fish them, they were brand new when I got them.
I thought the photos would be helpful Richard 
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