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Question re pinning ferrules

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drbaits	Question re pinning ferrules		Lead	[-]
Posts: 94 03/12/2009 10:24	Tags : None I've pinned the butt and both mid ferrules, but am having primal doubts about the need to pin the male ferrule on the tip sections...seems to me it might cause more damage to the integrity of the small diameter section than would be gained. What's the consensus on this?? thanks for the help!
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shuksanrods		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 46 03/12/2009 11:07	don't pin either. http://shuksanrods.wordpress.com
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lewis2dl		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 42 03/12/2009 11:52	Is it necessary to pin at all on any of the ferrules??? Dean
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tapermaker		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 722 03/12/2009 12:25	I pin all my ferrules and butt caps.fwiw i havnt had a failure at the ferrule yet due to cane fracture caused by pinning.
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Posts: 674 03/12/2009 12:41	Hi Guys, I'd like to lie and say I've never had a ferrule come loose.... So, I have improved my process for epoxying... I don't pin new rods... I'd like to... I might start if I have any trouble though.... Is the question about re-pinning? If so, I do. The problem is that new ferrules come oversize so that after pinning and fitting to size the finish and radius on the ends of the pin is the same as the rest of the ferrule. When you re-pin there's no material since the male is already fit to size, so it's tough to do. You just have to be very careful. Fine file just the pin and finish with sandpaper grades and a little steel wool. I'll put a little super glue on the pin as I push it in 'cause originally the 040 pin is a press fit into a .039 hole. Make sense? Jay Edwards
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Posts: 17 03/12/2009 22:46	I originally used hot-melt Browning Ferr-L-Tite cement and I pinned, as it held the ferrule on if it ever came loose from the glue and all you need to do is heat the ferrule a little to reset the glue inside the ferrule and you were back in business. Also easy to remove and replace a ferrule if necessary. When I used Gorilla PU glue I didn't need to pin as they were never coming off. Downside is you will need to cut them off with a Dremel cutting wheel if you ever need to replace them. I pinned with epoxy because epoxy can shrink when the rod is exposed to temperature extremes and break free of contact with the ferrule (if you need to remove an epoxied ferrule, stand the rod section in ice water up to the ferrule tabs for 10 minutes or so, turn a hair dryer on it (set so that you can hold your hand under it), and off it will come. Same thing happens when you're fishing in very cold weather and then bring the rod into a warm car or building a few times). A while back I went full circle back to the Ferr-L-Tite and pinning. It may sound a little low-tech compared to epoxy, PU, etc, but at the end of the day it's as reliable, perhaps more so, flexible, reversible, and much easier to work with. I also agree with Tapermaker; I never had a section fail at or because of a pin. Chuck
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