Dug these up from ancient emails. First is an early 3", ca. 1909-16. Second is a 1930s 3". Sorry, no inside pics of either for now. That would help
narrow down reel #1. 
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 cdmoore |
Two more from a friend | #41 | ||
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Posts: 2736 03/17/2009 23:16 Moderator |
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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Posts: 96 03/17/2009 23:35 |
Does anyone know the actual differences in manufacture of the "white finish" of the earlier models and the "leaded finish" of the later
models? The 1903 reproduction has the so called "white finish". I'm curious if the processes were similar or totally different.
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cdmoore |
I don't, but IMHO, "in the white" kicks arse! | #43 | ||
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Posts: 2738 03/18/2009 00:40 Moderator |
I dunno why, but I don't find leaded finish becoming on the Bougle. On a Perfect it looks great. It's something about the pillar ears.
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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Posts: 1251 03/18/2009 01:23 |
chris
i'm like you , i have seen a few in the black leaded finish , and i'll take in the white anyday first if i was lucky enough to have a chance
Richard
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Posts: 2522 03/18/2009 09:20 Moderator |
Banjo -
Neat to see the "Trifecta" again.......if I recall correctly, that photo was "April" in the 2007 Inaugural Classic Reels Calendar ...... 
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Posts: 97 03/18/2009 09:34 |
cdmoore wrote:Yes, the white finish looks better. Reels with the white finish always seem to have more of the finish intact. I guess it's more durable. |
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Posts: 2839 03/18/2009 12:52 Immoderatus Britannicus |
Reels with the white finish always seem to have more of the finish intactNot so in my experience - pretty well most of the original reels that I have seen (that is only about 25-30 though) usually have had the lacquer completely polished off them, most of the originally finished in black reels have also been polished but there is usually a residue in the stamping details. The reason is fairly straightforward - the finish is very fragile after 70 odd years and is very easily rubbed off (even without a cleaner or any kind of abrasive polish) and many of the reels actually live in display cases so corrosion of the bare metal is not an issue. I actually like the idea of the leaded finish but have yet to see one in the flesh and think that they are pretty rare, the black painted ones do tend to look a little battle weary as the paint wears / chips off. |
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cdmoore |
The darker one above is lead finish | #48 | ||
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Posts: 2739 03/18/2009 13:59 Moderator |
I believe the
EDIT: throwing the hounds off for Ken.
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Last Edited By: cdmoore 03/18/2009 14:31.
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Posts: 2842 03/18/2009 14:10 Immoderatus Britannicus |
Dammit Chris - say that very quietly please but at least you will not like it
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Posts: 137 03/18/2009 16:17 |
Aransas wrote: Drewett in his book says there are four finishes: 1. early examples have a marbled appearance by boiling the reel in a special solution - not a durable finish as Ken says and look as if they have just been left in the white; which is 2. papered bright with fine emery and then lacquered 3. bronzed and black leaded 4. matt black paint at the end of the run of production during second world war from left over parts in stock from 1939. |
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Posts: 100 03/18/2009 19:01 |
Piglegs wrote:Thanks, Piglegs, you've enlightened this novice. |
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Posts: 1254 03/18/2009 19:37 |
enough talk about these ol hardy bougle's , lets just see who would sell one , and please don't everyone email me all at once , i'd love to have one , just not the 3 inch size , to darn small , i had the repro and heck it's small , they size them i think from piller to piller , so to me the reel is like a 1/4 inch smaller i'd like to have the bigger 3 1/4 size , then it would hold a 5 wt i think ,
Richard
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Flyman615 |
Black finish | #53 | ||
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Posts: 3140 03/18/2009 19:59 |
OK, I know...it's not a Bougle'. And yes, I have pillar envy.
But here's my wartime 2 7/8" no-line guard Perfect with the semi-matte black painted finish. Even the brass reel foot was painted black.
Keep those old Bougle's coming! Regards,
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Posts: 1261 03/18/2009 20:59 |
nice reel scott , i bet that hardy would look just sickley if you was to fish it for awhile , paint chips missing all over it
Richard
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reelhimin |
Spitfire one | #55 | ||
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Flyman615 |
Thanks again, guys! | #56 | ||
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Posts: 3142 03/18/2009 21:36 |
Richard:
Guess what? I do fish the little black Perfect with a DT-4-F. But then, I don't let it bang around in the bottom of a drift boat! reelhimin: Thanks, Gary. Your Bougle' is as beautiful as I remember it...maybe more so! Best, Scott 
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Posts: 104 03/19/2009 20:53 |
reelhimin wrote:That reel looks to be in pristine condition. How old is it? |
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reelhimin |
Spitfire | #58 | ||
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Posts: 421 03/21/2009 10:33 |
Aransas, the reel is in great shape. It doesn't show in the picture but the white handle is crazed; other than that, it's about as good as it gets.
I'm guessing on the age and I am sure someone will chime in with a better answer, but I think late 30's-early 40's. I am also wondering where it
would fit in to Piglegs finish list? Probably #2. Thanks, Gary.
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Posts: 5865 03/21/2009 10:45 the Canefather |
bowriver,
My 3" handles a 5 wt just fine with plenty of backing. reelhimin, If you have some green coloration within the crazing that would be what is referred to as a bubblegum handle, these were the replacement to the ivoroid handles but since the material crazed the black handle was then introduced CA 1922 or so...........
banjo
Fly fishing is my Quisisana (the name is Italian for "place where one heals one's self.") "...... SLG Visit my website about Bamboo rods... Fishnbanjo's Place |
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Posts: 1263 03/22/2009 18:50 |
banjo
i had a repro reel that they made like the 1903 reel and i couldn't get a 5 wt on it with 75 yards of backing , i think when i measured the reel and not from the pillers it was like 2 3/4 in size , on them bougle reels when you see them say 3 1/4 to me that means the reel is like 3 inch , or they say 3 inch then i think they measure from across the reel and add in the pillers , am i wrong , just what is the correct way to measure the bougle reel ,
Richard
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