Hello,this is my first post on this sight,so I hope it works.I have a Payne 206 /9' 3/2 in great shape except the tip sections are slightly set (bent).Can
they be repaired without compromising rod's originality?
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Posts: 2 07/31/2008 16:41 |
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Posts: 268 07/31/2008 18:48 |
Yes, any qualified rodmaker, restorer or repair person can do this. There are plenty on here that could help you out. You can do it yourself, but if you
haven't done it before, I don't think I'd try it the first time on a Payne!!! It requires a certain amount of heat to do it and too little, you
can crack the bamboo bending it... too much, you can scorch varnish, break down the glue or burn the cane, or all of the above.
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Posts: 1107 08/02/2008 01:49 MO/ARK Trout Bum |
I was fishing in Michigan on the PM with a group from here in Branson and one guy we met up on at the PM Lodge told me he had an older Orvis rod he'd been
fishing for the chinooks... and when I saw that rod.. my mouth dropped open. I still to this day have never seen a rod with such tip sets... including all the
worst you've seen on the ebay.
Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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Posts: 4 08/03/2008 11:21 |
Thanks for the reply.The tip set is minor,I wonder if repairing would affect the rods value as "untouched"
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Posts: 1432 08/04/2008 08:04 |
No one would know if the tip ever had a set or not. Your merely appling some heat at the set and pressure in the opposite direction,,,,,,,,,,,,Besides, you
already "touched" it.
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Posts: 76 08/05/2008 00:08 |
Hello,
I have to straighten out most of my old bamboo rods each season undoubtedly due to my offcenter semi spey old fashioned way of casting that puts a bit of cant to my tips. I borrow my wife's hair blow dryer. I then make an assessment of the direction of the smooth offset referenced to the guide flat segment. I gently and slowly warm (not hot) approximately half of the tip segment, applying heat uniformly along all 6 segments until the rod feels warm (not hot). Then, I carefully put a counterbend in the opposite direction to the set. I bend the tip smoothly and not too extreme, and hold it in this counterbend for 30 or 45 seconds until the bamboo cools off a bit. I then give the tip a bit of a shake and shimmy and reassess the bend. Quite often, the tip is now much straighter but might need another bit of doctoring. I also put a bit of a counterbend into a tip that has a bit of offset at the end of the fishing day, before I retire the rod to its bag and case. This habit may well counter the continal increase of rod set from your casting. Kenny M. |
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Posts: 36 08/07/2008 15:21 |
I have a kind of bean bag affair that goes in the Microwave for sore muscles that is ideal for this - called a "Bed Buddy". Just heat it up, wrap it
around the rod, then set it gently between two books so that the counter-bend works for you, leave it about twenty minutes, then check it.
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Posts: 3 03/25/2009 10:41 |
Sorry to resurrect this thread but it has all the info i was looking for but I am curious of one thing. The rod i have has a slight half inch play bend at the
tip, i am going to restore the whole rod so my question is; should i look into fixing the bend first then stip the rod or strip the rod and then fix the bend?
Thanks ~D |
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Posts: 64 03/25/2009 11:14 |
what bob said. it is an easy enough repair, but for someone who is experienced with cane. i would not advise you to practice taking out sets on a payne rod. i
don't charge for taking out sets. find a maker or restorer near you and let them do it..
dwyndal, i would take the set out with the varnish on, then strip. you need to be careful in heating up tips. the varnish will help to keep you from drying the cane out (and burning) as you heat it, and then help keep the heat in as you slowly warm it up. mike |
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Posts: 4 03/25/2009 12:25 |
Thanks Mikec, i'll do that. Last question, by hand or make a holder between two boards or pins (pins were recommended)?
I appreciate it and look forward to my soon first build from blank. |
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Posts: 66 03/25/2009 14:03 |
there are a lot of ways to skin this little kitty. i do it by hand. first sight down the rod to make sure all the guides are lined up perfectly. check to be
sure the flats are running straight to the tip top. a lot of old rods will have twists in them. they appear as bends. close inspection might reveal a twist.
straighten that first. be careful as we all know that twisting cane is a fairly dangerous practice. that will take out a lot of "sets". then try to
take out the "bend" if it is not straight. be careful with your heat. rotate the tip section over the heat. keep your fingers close to the section
being heated.they will let you know if it is getting warm. i will touch the heated area to my lip to make sure it is not too hot.
it doesn't take a lot to heat a tip, but like bob says, too little, and you will be learning scarfing techniques. good luck, mike |
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