Ok have had a couple of recent conversations with guides/ outfitters. Nice guys but so far all were of the current go fast tungsten and shot... sinking line
head counter crowd. (as long as they release fish no problem with that at all ) Any suggestions on guides/ lodges/ outfitters (can be nation wide or intl if
you like warm or cold water) that will be understanding and supportive of clients that prefer to fish in a more traditional manner. Chuck and duck is not my
idea of fun and I have no desire to fish sinking lines. I enjoy fishing my bamboo and traditional flies and will bring at least one or two silk lines as
well.... I understand the vast majority of fly fishermen today fish that way (thus the tv show) and get that they have to go where the market is. Is it as
simple as explaining how I want to fish and then asking their input as to what time of year best facilitates that?...... want to setup a trip for fall and
another for spring.......Please note that I in no way mean to say anything negative about guys that fish differently than I do I just fish the way that gives
me the most pleasure and hope others do the same.....for example: if it's yellow streamers that the browns are on I'd prefer to use a C. Bates or other
Rangely in the right colors than the latest concoction of synthetic materials and for bass I prefer hair bugs to foam.....
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Marty wrote:That is exactly what I would do. |
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Have you looked at board member Bowriver? His Canadian setup looks wonderful...
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Marty wrote: This is exactly what I have always done -- including telling a guide on the San Jaun to unhitch his drift boat because my son and I wanted to fish dries -- even if we didn't catch a fish. PS: We caught a ton of fish, and the guide didn't hesitate to say dryfly was his preferred method. I've never had a problem after stating my wishes and objectives before heading out or before signing up for a trip. If you're running into outfitters or guides who are telling you HOW you are going to fish without discussing your wishes, it's time to look for someone else. They should be happy to tell you not only the best time of year, but also the best locations, times of day, gear, etc. The sign of a good outfitter is one who caters to his clients wishes, not to a "How many didja ketch?" scoreboard. EP |
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Gates' Au Sable Lodge, in Grayling, MI. (gateslodge.com/). They cater to traditional fishermen (although the market sends them few cane users, just not
that many out there - but they understand us). Dry fly hatches are their specialty. Most of the flies in the shop were tied over the winter by the very guides
you'll have in the boat. Wonderful folks, "Holy Waters" where TU was founded, nice lodge right on the river, wonderful restaurant where you can
bring your own alcohol (save big $$). Tell 'em Marvin sent you.
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Second that. I think that's a bamboo rod in Rusty's hand on his home page.
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Posts: 179 04/02/2009 13:08 |
Nothing better than Gates Lodge. Worst part of me moving out West, was not being within driving distance of Gates.
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When looking for a guide/lodge there are some things I tell them up front::
I'm bringing bamboo. I expect a guide who isn't going to trash talk my choice of rod material. I'm there to learn something new. It's not all about catching fish. I want someone who can teach me, who's not afraid to tell me when I'm doing something wrong. That being said, it is about catching some fish. I want someone who knows the area and can converse about its natural history and its resources, both what it has to offer and threats to it. I don't want an 18 year old from half way across the country no matter how much a hotshot fly fisher he is. I want it to be a fun experience. I ask who my guide is likely to be based on my criteria and why. That way they have to put some thought into what I've said and make a tentative commitment to my needs/wants. In Alaska, this got me the head guide one on one for part of my stay which was great. |
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Never had any trouble. I don't hire many guides and when I do it is more for access or because I need a drift boat. The thought of some employee giving
me grief over my choice of gear is virtually unimaginable. It would be a damn short day for the both of us.
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Posts: 107 04/02/2009 18:08 |
I had a bad experience listening to a loudmouth in Alaska and told the lodge I'd rather just be dropped off than fish with him again. Had a ghillie in
ireland give me a bit of good natured grief but it was more in the nature of don't see how you are fighting those fish that hard on that old rod. I
don't do it too often but in an area where the rivers are totally different than those I am used to I like to for at least a day. In the last several
years I have had really long hour high pressure jobs and limited time to fish....a lodge and guide was the best way to maximize what time on the water I had.
(this is a transit period for me and more time to fish will be part of the next deal I now have a firm grasp on how much money is needed vs what I think I
need) Most guides I've fished with are just a little amused and go with it fine. I had a couple recent conversations that were really offputting.
I think what I need to do spend some time right up front telling them how I want to fish and then ask how they would handle it. Gates does look like a neat place!!! You can tell they are very pro dry fly and thats as much as you could ask for. (I know us cane guys count as wierdo's and are a bit rare) Life is too short for cheap scotch and plastic rods.
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