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skondolf	Banty Rod - Length of handle vs action		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 03/31/2009 14:39	Tags : None Hello - newbie here ... Wanting to get into bamboo and a friend suggested this site. I recently picked up a South Bend 359-9 that needs some tlc and one of the thoughts I have is to make it a banty rod. Most of the banty rods I've seen suggest cutting the butt section down and mounting a handle so the ferrule is under the cork handle - the ferrule edge basically becomes a winding check. If I do this the overall length of the rod would be around 6 to 6 1/2'. What I'd like to do is mount the handle on the butt section but leave about an extra 8-10" of butt sticking out of the handle before the ferrule. This would give me some cane to inscribe something, add some decorative wrap and would give me a slightly longer rod - right around 7' or so. I guess my question is (before I cut the bamboo) would lengthening the handle an extra 8" or so make any noticeable difference in the action of the rod vs inserting the ferrule under the cork handle? I've never cast bamboo before and have only been flyfishing about 4 years so I'm definitely in strange territory here. Thanks, Steve
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troutwings		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 211 04/01/2009 11:57	Steve, This might seem a little screwy buy try assembling the rod (no reel) , line up the top two sections. Now grab the rod at just below the butt ferrule and do some casting. The move your hand down 8 or 10" and try again. Should give you a pretty good idea how the cut down rod will cast. I think the 9', 359 was a six weight...probably a good place to start but try a five too. Dennis
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skondolf		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 04/01/2009 15:27	Not screwy sounding at all. I tried that but with the rest of the handle sticking out behind it doesn't feel "right" no matter what I do. I guess I could cut the butt section down to include the extra 8" or so and somehow dry-fit a reel to it and cast that way. (duct tape is a beautiful thing) If I don't like it I can always cut the 8" off. I didn't know if there was a "rule of thumb" regarding action when doing something like this. I know it's not a real banty rod but it seems like a pretty popular thing to do and it gets me "into" bamboo somewhat without a ton of expense. thanks for the reply.
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luzerne1	Cane	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 16 04/01/2009 16:16	Steve, If you can make it take a ride over to Roscoe Sat. we will give you all the cane you can handle to cast before you perform surgery. I did what you are contemplating back in the early 70's when I was paying child support for 4 siblings. I didn't leave the feerule on, just used the top 2 sections of a 9 footer. It was an ok brookie rod but that's all. It's still here somewhere hasn't been out since the kids got educated and jobs. Jack
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Zenkoanhead		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1428 04/01/2009 17:46	It doesn't hurt to tape a reel in the two positions. The section sticking out has nothing to do with anything. You don't need to cut it off to really feel the result. The only problem I see with leaving the butt section a little long is that the deflection will stop at the lower ferrule. Placing the ferrule at the winding check mimics a swell at that same position. The consensus of opinion around here is that 2 of 3 bantys are pretty iffy. Don
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skondolf		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3 04/02/2009 08:11	Hi Jack - (gee, never say that on an airplane) I'd love to get down to Roscoe for the ceremonies on Saturday but there's no way I can make the drive. Some day ... some day. I have been talking to John (CJ) about a lot of this too and he's been giving me some pointers/suggestions. Cane is all new to me - only cane I've ever cast was JB's last fall at the one-fly and that wasn't even on the water. I know the chances this will be a "decent casting rod" is slim so I'm trying all this on a cheap rod. It's really more of a learning experience on the process. John told me he had a butt section for this rod laying around so I'm hoping to get it from him and then I'll be able to restore the full 9' version as well as the shortened one.
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oldboyscout		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 222 04/04/2009 11:48	bantys are fun, but don't be afraid to redo that rod and fish it as is- 9'. It's a good taper, just needs more guides. Unless you're fishing tiny streams, there's nothing wrong with a 9' rod-I know they're out of style though. Then get that butt section and make the handle for the banty. When I match wits with a trout, I usually lose...
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skondolf		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4 04/08/2009 11:23	oldboyscout wrote: bantys are fun, but don't be afraid to redo that rod and fish it as is- 9'. It's a good taper, just needs more guides. Unless you're fishing tiny streams, there's nothing wrong with a 9' rod-I know they're out of style though. Then get that butt section and make the handle for the banty. Thats the plan - I'm waiting for the other butt section to arrive and plan on finishing both versions. I found a thread that mentioned adding more guides and gave the spacing which is what I'm planning on doing. Just gotta get all the stuff together and do it. Most of the streams I fish are somewhat small which is why I want to do the banty version but I do get down to the catskills a couple times/year and then I'd like the full 9' rod.
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oldboyscout		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 224 04/09/2009 16:57	Make sure to post photos when you're done working on it. When I match wits with a trout, I usually lose...
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