Heddon ferrule painting question

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bamboofan	Heddon ferrule painting question		Lead	[-]
Posts: 57 04/06/2009 18:06	Tags : None So, I've got this Heddon #20 I'm restoring; mapped it, stripped it, and had to recoat the ferrules. I posted a question quite a while back about what folks used to restore the black finish on these ferrules & someone suggested using Aero Gloss black. I removed all the original black, lightly spun the ferrules in 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper to give the surface some "bite", then sprayed them with Aero Gloss in my airbrush. They looked fabulous, but had one small problem. I couldn't even touch them without the Aero Gloss flaking off. I also use clear Aero Gloss as a cp, so when I wrapped one of the ferrules & applied the cp, the black bled through. So I'm back to square one. Anybody have a more durable solution for blackening the ferrules? I also build plastic scale aircraft. Would the enamel model paints work any better? I'm not pulling the ferrules off the rod, so that eliminates any "baked on" finishes. Thanks, Brian
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cheffy		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 149 04/06/2009 18:55	I've had problems using Aero Gloss also. The last two Heddons I've done I've used the black lacquer that is used for spinning jig heads. Jann's netcraft is about 30 min. from me so I bought a jar for like $2.00 and tried it. So far so good. Only problem is that it dries really fst so you have to work quick. I did dip a set of females and that worked great. Next time I may try thinning it. BTW. Did you get the guide yet? I mailed it on Friday.
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mattcliff		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 98 04/06/2009 20:24	India ink.
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bluejayee		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 715 04/06/2009 20:45	Hi Guys, Why not blue? jay Edwards
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fisherman911		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 99 04/06/2009 21:49	Black Sharpie Permanent marker. If you fish the rod a lot it will begin to wear put it is easily to touch it up.
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ayres654	Bluing	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 68 04/06/2009 22:03	I have a Heddon 120 that has had it's ferrules blued,and they look & wear fine.Not the original,but good enough. Bill
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bamboofan		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 58 04/06/2009 22:16	Gary- Got the guide. Thank you VERY much! If I can ever return the favor, let me know. India ink sounds interesting. Am going to give it a try on a spare ferrule & see if it will stand up to the Aero Gloss cp. Also have some true automotive lacquer I'm going to try. Need something that will stick & stay stuck until I dip the rod. Then the varnish will protect it as the ferrules were varnished over (except for the male slides, of course). Not sure bluing would look correct as Heddon ferrules are jet black. Most of the bluing I've worked with on guns is more of a blue/black.
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fdlyons		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 42 04/06/2009 22:42	Use flat black enamel or Acrylic. Bluing also worked but it won't be as black.
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Finn		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 04/06/2009 22:43	Why not buy some Cold Blue from Brownells? Much tougher than paint and probably the way it was done originally.
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john channer		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 728 04/06/2009 22:55	the original finish was black lacquer, the jig head stuff is probably as close as anything, tho you might find black lacquer in the model paint section at the hardware store.Aerogloss I believe is airplane dope, it's probably thinned with acetone which makes it different from other paints, it's intended to color and stiffen the cloth that model airplane bodies are covered with. Birchwood-Casey's Brass Black on nickel silver gives a good jet black color, varnish over it so it lasts. john
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rlnunleycom		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 508 04/07/2009 08:19	Someone once told me that the original process used on Heddon ferrules was Japaning. I don't know that for sure, but I've done some with multi coats of thinned black model laquer and they look original. If you want to try japaning, there are recipes for it all over the internet. Bob RL "Bob" Nunley, Rodmaker Ozark Rodmaking School
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bamboo4u2		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 290 04/07/2009 12:01	For "Japanning" I've used black "Hard As Nails" fingernail polish. Haven't had any flake off yet. Any of you who have used the clear stuff as fly head cement know how tough this stuff is. If your wife catches you using it, just lie. Regards and WDE!!! Bob L "Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be." Robert Earl James
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mattcliff	India ink	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 99 04/07/2009 12:04	From the Tips site: "I asked another rod restorer about 7 years ago how he was making the Heddon ferrules real dark black, and he told me india ink. So I tried it and it works you also need to spray a couple coats of clear lacquer over the ferrules. Then you just dip rod sections clear up to end of ferrules. Seems as though the Heddon rods were famous for the Japanning ferrules. (Dave Henney)" I did this on a couple Heddons I restored last year, and it worked great.
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fdlyons		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 43 04/14/2009 13:37	I have done several Heddons with the black ferrules and most of them were blued or blacked. I don't know what process they used but they were more black than blue. I could not match the black without painting and then dipping. If most of the black is in evidence, I remove the varnish with varnish remover, touch up with the cold blue and re-varnish. I use spar varnish because it will amber and give that nice gold patina after some time resembling the original. I guess one does what it takes to match the original. Dwight
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