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Posts: 2750 03/08/2009 20:31 Moderator |
"I felt compelled to finish the set.."
Yes, the ruination of many a bank account. I have several rods I don't need for exactly the same reason. But I understand... |
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TheMontyMan |
Updated Montague Collection List... | #382 | ||
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Posts: 2 03/14/2009 06:10 |
As many of you on this Forum already know, I'm a bamboo addict, and my fix of choice is anything by Montague. I recently changed my handle and profile to reflect my addiction. Click on my avatar at the left, or on this link http://themontyman.clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/ to check out the projects I'm working on and to see some examples of some of the rods listed below. My wife inherited a Montague Rapidan that was
handed down from her grandfather, to her father, then to her. I decided to buy one to match it, so I picked up a Rapidan on eBay for close to nothing, and
began fishing with it. It was a bit clunky, but fishable. I've worked my way up the Monty line into the Fishkills, Redwings and Manitous, and enjoy fishing
with them. I found that I enjoyed researching and collecting as well, so my addiction has taken on a new dimension. To date, I've cataloged just
over 210 Montague
named/numbered production bamboo fly rod models (not including various rod lengths or trade rods). I plan to publish my research (some day), so I'm always
looking for more unknown rods, and searching for examples or information on the ones I've cataloged. If
you have a Montague rod (or know of one) that does not show up on the list below, I would love to know about it!!
Here's a list
of my Montague rods to date. I listed them generally in
order of what I believe to be their original retail prices.
Manitou Tournament 9'
Manitou Dry Fly Salmon 10'6"
Manitou 9'6" (1920's
vintage)
Red Wing Game Cock 7'6" (3-piece) Red Wing Game Cock 8'6" Red Wing Game Cock 9' Red Wing Game Cock 9'6" Red Wing Light Trout 8'6" (1920's) Red Wing Light Trout 8'6" (1940's) Red Wing Medium Trout 9' (2) Red Wing Medium Trout 9'6"
Red Wing Light Trout 9'6"
(1920's)
French River Medium Trout 8'6" (Red Wing trade Rod) French River Light Trout 9' French River Medium Trout 9' Powr-Built 20 9' (Double Built) Trail 9' Webster 8'6"
Flipline 8'6"
Flipline 9'
Fishkill 7'6" 2-piece (2)
Fishkill Light Trout 8'6" Fishkill Medium Trout 9' (2) Fishkill Bass Weight 9'
Fishkill Steelhead 8' (2-piece)
Palmer 8'6"
Blue Streak 9'
Blue Streak 8'6" (2)
Comet Light Trout 8'6"
Comet Medium Trout 9' Splitswitch 9' (not a combo rod)
(4)
Splitswitch Combination 9' (combo
fly/spin) (2)
Eel River Combination 9' (combo fly/spin) (2) Broad Brook 9' Madison 9' Madison 8'6" Rapidan 7'6" (2-piece) (2) Rapidan 8' 3-piece Rapidan 9'6" Colorado Grip (10
inch cigar grip)
Rapidan 9' Black Model (blued
hardware, dark flamed cane, red wraps)
Rapidan 8'6" Red Model (red
plastic reel seat, red wraps)
Rapidan 8'6" Chrome Model
(chrome reel seat, red and green wraps)
Rapidan 9' (2)
Rapidan 8'6" (3)
Rapidan Combination 9' (combo
fly/spin) Rapidan 9' Steelhead (2-piece) Beaver Run 9' Mountain Lake 9' Comanche 9'
Pelham Brook 8'6" Flash Pocket Rod 6'6" (7 sections 12.5" each) Flash 8'6"
Eel River Combination 9' (2)
Iroquois 8'6" Arcadian 9' (2) Arcadian 8'6" Leaping Brook 9' Leaping Brook 8'6" (2)
Bear Lake 9'
Sonora 9' (2)
Sonora 8'6"
Sunbeam 7'6" 2-piece (2) Sunbeam 8'6" (3) Sunbeam 9' (2) AuSable River 8'6" Clipper 9' Clipper Black model 9' Clipper Dry Fly Salmon 9' (detachable fighting butt) Deerfield 9' Deerfield 8'6" (2) Barton Brook 9' Rainy River 8'6"
Timber Lake 9' Timber Lake 9'6" Lake Pleasant 9' (2) Mt. Tom 8'6"
Mt. Tom 9' (2)
Clear Lake 8'6" Highland 9'
500 1/2 9'
Amateur 7'6" (2-piece) (2)
Amateur 8' (2-piece) Amateur 8'6" (3-piece)
Amateur 9'
(3-piece)
In addition, I have a handful of pre-1928 models Other Monty-made trade rods and/or special orders from their custom rod shop... Conway Special 9' (Marshall Field & Co. trade rod) Conway Special 10' (Marshall Field & Co. trade rod) Belmont 7'6" (2) (trade rod) Belmont 8'6" (2) (trade rod) Belmont 9' (2) (trade rod) Manco 9' (trade rod) Windsor 9' (trade rod)
X-Pert 9' (2) (Comet-level trade
rod)
Silver Doctor 9' (trade rod)
Foothills 9' (trade rod) J.C. Higgins (several) (trade rod) Elliott Thunderbolt (trade rod) 2 Rods I use most (so far this spring) 7'6" 3-piece Red Wing Game Cock (early 1930's vintage) 9' Red Wing Game Cock Medium Trout Favorite collectible My favorite (at the moment) is my 7'6" Red Wing Game Cock 3-piece rod. Wanting to own Any Monty not in the list above! . . . Rex TheMontyMan If you have a Monty that's not on the list above, I wan to hear about it!!
Last Edited By: TheMontyMan 05/13/2009 02:11.
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teter |
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Posts: 1255 03/14/2009 20:23 |
Looks like a good collection, Monty Man. What line do you use on that old 8 1/2-foot Redwing? |
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TheMontyMan |
Line for old 8'6" Red Wing Light Trout... | #384 | ||
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Posts: 5 03/15/2009 01:52 |
Teter,
I use a 3 wt. modern line on my 1920's vintage Red Wing Light Trout rod, and it casts like a dream. This rod casts and fishes on the light side of a 3 wt. I used it a lot last summer. She's the one on the far left of my Red Wing selection pictured on my profile. She has the old nickel silver sliding band reel seat, and the old, smaller Montague label. I never even cleaned up the cork after buying this one. I just put it in the rod case, and headed out to the river. What most people don't know is that there is a BIG difference between the Light Trout, Medium Trout and Bass Weight models in the Monty Line. The Medium Trout weights are the most common. The weight designation was only printed on the rod tube label and/or the rod sock label. Probably 90% of these old rods that are still around don't have either label remaining, so it's hard to tell what you have. A Medium Trout model in an 8'6" would probably throw a 5 or 6 wt. line. TheMontyMan Check out my profile to see my latest projects... |
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Posts: 273 04/12/2009 00:23 |
Been a while since I updated my group. My strategy of buying 1 and selling 2 finally came to a crashing halt.
Pickard 704 Pickard 795 Jenkins 70L Jenkins 756 Jenkins 79 Jennings 7 ft 4wt Schroeder 71/2 ft 4 wt Zietak Driggs W&M Granger Special 7'6" W&M Granger Special 8' Thramer Leonard 50 Hunt |
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Chief |
Orvis Flea | #386 | ||
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Posts: 3 04/28/2009 20:59 |
I just added the following to my Orvis collection.
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tedgolden |
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Posts: 2849 05/04/2009 13:38 Moderator |
Chief, A WF 4 works perfectly on the Flea.
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Chief |
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Posts: 4 05/08/2009 22:50 |
Ted,
Thanks for the information on what line to use on the Orvis Flea that I just added to my collection....... I have another questions.... which Orvis rod do you like better the Superfine or the Rocky Mountain? If you were going to use an Orvis bamboo rod to fish wet flies which rod would you select out of all the Orvis rods made? Thanks |
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tedgolden |
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Posts: 2852 05/09/2009 00:40 Moderator |
Orvis bamboo rod to fish wet flies which rod would you select out of all the Orvis rods made?
I'd suggest the 8 1/2' 4 5/8 ounce rod with 16 - 10 ferrules. Slow action, nice open loops for multi fly setups. It's best with a 6 line although Orvis suggested a 7. which Orvis rod do you like better the Superfine or the Rocky Mountain? I prefer the 7' Superfine. I have not tried the 6 foot or 6 1/2 foot Superfine rods. Of course the RM is three piece which can be convenient. The Rm I used for a while was best with a 6 WF line. Retrospectively I wish I had had one with me last winter in Chile instead of a 7/4 which wasn't enough gun in the wind on those creeks. 
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Posts: 870 05/15/2009 17:27 |
Ted,
Nice rod-great photo and I hope he tasted good!!!!!
BDC
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Posts: 5 05/17/2009 22:52 |
Ted,
First I want to say that's a Very Nice Fly Rod and a nice catch!!! Thanks for the advice on the Orvis Superfine. I have been looking for one but it's like pulling teeth trying to find real nice Superfine 7ft. 2pc. 2 tips. I know where there is one but it has grip roughness at the nose from the guy parking hooks and some fading of the bluing on the female ferrule. The grip roughness would have to be repaired and there asking $795. My guess it would cost me few more $$$ to get it repaired so I walked away from the rod because of it. I don't know if this old retired Army CW5 will live long enough to find a real nice one!!! |
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cdmoore |
Buy the one in front of you | #392 | ||
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Posts: 2793 05/18/2009 12:42 Moderator |
A prolific collector once advised me: if you can afford it, buy the one in front of you and keep it until a better example comes along.
So, you might want to grab the rod while you can. Fish and enjoy. Life is too short to quibble over a hundred bucks. You'll probably waste that much (time = money) looking for the perfect example...I certainly have. (lunchtime philosophy and worth what you paid, maybe less) 
C
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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darrelll |
Excellent Monty Collection! | #393 | ||
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Posts: 65 05/26/2009 13:23 |
Looks like you might possibly have more than me... which is hard for me to believe, but I stop at only rods with NS ferrules.
The early Flipline 8.5' rods have a taper and cast very similar to a 8.5' Leonard. This is another diamond in the rough. I've yet to find one in excellent condition. The post WWII Fliplines are ordinary. |
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softstick |
re: Rod collection | #394 | ||
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Posts: 604 06/04/2009 11:06 |
Well Ric, this is a bit of a tall order but fun to guess. I'm guessing you popped for the Brandin on Bud's site. One could also surmise by your
collection and the rods you have on order that you really have a penchant for seven sixers. Plus you have an abundance on some makers so losing one from say
Walt Carpenter wouldn't hurt too much. But still, giving up four rods of this quality for one Brandin hhhmmmm. And knowing Bud he's going to want
quality in return. So...........................
I would say 7' Bradford, 8' Bradford, 8' Carpenter, 7' Maxwell. But I'm probably way off 
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Posts: 1581 06/04/2009 15:33 |
I think you have the most impressive collection Ric.
Any chance we can enjoy the beauty of the rods with some pictures? |
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ibookje |
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Posts: 1582 06/04/2009 17:10 |
Thanks Ric!
if you have more pictures available in the future, please share with us. |
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Posts: 146 06/04/2009 18:50 |
Spectacular! - I like the Spittler signature wraps and the ratton grip on the Ron Kusse best.
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Posts: 1 07/03/2009 10:16 |
Can anyone tell me about a bamboo rod that is labeled "Colorado Deluxe"? Is this a Granger Rod?
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Posts: 150 07/08/2009 22:17 |
A really great collection Rex, in such a short time! It took me years to find a good Trail rod. I have a few not listed in your collection... I have a Manitou
bait rod with a black Landman style seat. I also have the Powerbuilt #50. I've never seen/heard of a 8' Rapidan. I've also missed out on the
8.5' light trout rods. I think I might have another unusual Manitou... It might be a saltwater rod... I don't exactly remember...
I probably have 4-5 Radio rods which are said to be Monty's. I dunno, their windings and fancy knurling are among the best I've ever seen. Unfortunately they all need restoration and they all have full intermediates and beautiful signature butt wraps that are quite intricate and well beyond my patience level to restore.
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TheMontyMan |
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Posts: 167 07/09/2009 01:42 |
Darrelll,
You have some sweet ones in your collection, and I'll bet some of your unknown rods are gems waiting to be re-discovered. I've never actually seen a Powr-Built 50, and have not even seen good pictures of one. I'd love to see pics of yours. I'd also like to see pictures of any Manitou. Not many of those floating around, as you know. I've seen 2 8' Rapidans, but was not able to pick them up. I've bought 3 rods off eBay that were advertised as 8 footers, but were mis-advertised, and I sent them back. I remember a thread from a while back talking about short Monty production rods. At this point, I believe there are at least 20 production models that were made in lengths of 8' or less. I'd love to pick up a 7'6" Manitou. I'm sure they're out there. Some 9' rods were built in a Light Trout taper as well. I have a 9' Light Trout Red Wing from the late 1920's. I've added another 20 or so rods to my collection since that posting. Most of my recent additions are high-end, previously undocumented models from the Varney era. At the moment, I'm glad that most people don't value a good Monty like I do.
. . . Rex TheMontyMan |
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