Anyone has an experience with this kayak http://freedomhawkkayaks.com/ Thanks!
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Posts: 74 05/08/2009 14:12 |
no, but to me, it looks a little gimmicky (is that even a word?) At 85 lbs., I can't get over the weight. I like the portability of mine (roughly 40-45
lbs)...I've just gotten into kayak fishing and just use an older Ocean Kayak Scrambler...works great for me (for now). The price isn't so bad
(I'll probably never spend that much on a kayak) since it's at least within the realm of some of the other high-end yaks.
anyway, there's my 2 cents, Randy |
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Posts: 44 05/08/2009 14:45 |
I can't comment on the specific model that your looking at... but I've given up Kayak fishing and have gone back to a simple 12' aluminum Sportspal
Canoe. Its unbelievably light (40 or 45 lbs). its amazingly stable. now that I'm older I prefer sitting higher on the water ..so I've even taken out
the seats and instead put in a folding lawn chair... its exceptionaly comfortable, very stable and just a relaxing way to fish a pond. So sorry ...I was a
kayaker at one time but I just didn't enjoy casting from such a low position (it was great for trolling) but I prefer casting over trolling. So I went back
to a beamy slow canoe. Pete
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Posts: 317 05/08/2009 14:49 |
Pete,
Can you stand while casting in 12' aluminum Sportspal Canoe? |
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Posts: 23 05/08/2009 15:42 |
I have a Native Ultimate 12. I love it. It is light enough to sling into the back of my pickup....stable enough to stand while casting or poling. Check them
out on google....if you are looking for a yak, I think you will be impressed.
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Posts: 296 05/09/2009 02:51 |
alpom wrote:alpom, I'm not Pete but I'll try to give you my opinion in answer to your question. I taught whitewater canoeing for about 25 years and had about every certification available with regard to canoeing...heck a couple of the board members here even took some of my classes back in the day. The Sportspal Canoes have a block of closed cell foam running below the gunwales from bow to stern which is supposed to give the canoe some extra stability. It does somewhat prevent the canoe from total capsize because the foam block will catch the canoe if you're paddling in a normal position (seated or kneeling) before it will turn over 180* as well as help prevent the gunwales from going under water....Regarding standing...if you're standing in your 12' Sportspal canoe and lose your balance (not hard to do), you will flip out of the canoe into the water nicely but your canoe should remain upright. Poling a canoe is a good way to travel. The pole gives you a stable pole to hang on to when you're pushing off the bottom and the pole can be used like a wire walker uses a pole for stability; you can even use a push-pole like a kayak paddle ...but when you stand up to cast, without the pole the canoe will be less stable. If you want to stand in a canoe while you fish on flatwater, unless you're an experienced expert...and maybe for experts too...IMHO, get or a set of sponsons. Then you'll have all the stability you need. The higher you raise the center of gravity in a canoe, the more unstable it becomes...kneeling lowers the CofG (that's what whitewater paddlers do), sitting on the seats (higher CofG)-less stable, sitting in a lawn chair (even higher CofG)-even less stable, standing (very high CofG)-not very stable at all. Oh and most important of all, wear a personal flotation device. Hope that helps! Regards and WDE!! Bob L. "If you're attractive enough on the outside, people will forgive you for being irritating to the core." --Robert Earl James
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Posts: 45 05/09/2009 09:42 |
I'm kind of wobbly even when on flat ground but I tried standing in it this morning and could ... but like Bob said I doubt the canoe would tip over, I
think I'd just fall out of it. The folding webbed garden chair is very comfortable though & suits me fine (for ponds).
I really am interested in Bob's original question ...I tried so many Kayaks looking for a nice fly fishing platform and I actually looked at the Freedom and I liked how you could standup and lean against something (I thought it would be perfect for Monomoy on Cape cod)... but I thought that it was a little too heavy for me. When I was salwater fishing I found it very helpful for getting from Point A to Point B and when an outer sand bar was exposed it was nice to paddle out to it, beach the yak and then wade fish...it gave me a lot more time to fish and since I had the yak anchored when the bar flooded I could keep fishing till it was too deep and then I'd roll back onto the kayak and find the next wadeable spot. but if there was current I was always getting screwed up with lining the kayak up so I could cast....I was thinking about a Hobie with the little flippers underneath thinking that might have held me in position (but that was heavy too)...so for me the weight was getting to the point where I just got a regular small center console boat for standing in and just quit the search. .... it just wasn't me .. oh yea ...there was one other option ...I was looking at a very light boat by "Good dog boats" ...very light and very stable and you can stand in it ... nice...but it was too much money ... so I dusted off the old beat up sportspal
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Posts: 497 05/09/2009 10:37 |
I second that vote for the Native Ultimate boats. I love the way they handle and sit and they are very stable. I think it's a good cross/compromise between
the regular sit-on-top kayak and a canoe. Being low to the water, they are easier to paddle in wind than a canoe, but sit almost as comfortably. But for hours
of just sitting and fishing, I do like the higher-up, more comfortable canoe seating a bit better. But here in south Florida, the wind is almost always up and
the higher profile of a real canoe is harder to handle on open water. The Native boats are the best all around I have tried. I normally fish the bays and flats
around mangrove islands, and seldom venture into the open Gulf of Mexico in a paddle boat and only then if the wind is calm.
Bill Anderson, Sarsota, Fl. "Bamboo is the Benchmark in flyrods". |
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Posts: 567 05/09/2009 14:01 |
The Native boats really are great. I own one and have a couple for work, and they are very stable and fun to fish out of. The seat can be moved from a kayak
(low and close to water) to an upward canoe position for fishing. You can haul a lot of gear and access it much easier than you can with a kayk. They are a
hot item in NC where they are built.
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Posts: 190 05/10/2009 09:04 |
I've been canoe/kayak fishing for over thirty years and have tried a lot of different boats. I've never tried the Freedom Hawk, but it also looks like
a gimmick to me. The Native boats are really a kind of canoe/kayak hybrid, have great stability, are well made, and work very well as a fishing craft.
They're not the fastest boats, but that's not what you're after.
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