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Civil War Era Orvis Salmon Rod

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darrelll	Civil War Era Orvis Salmon Rod		Lead	[-]
Posts: 48 05/10/2009 07:34	Tags : None One of my first (expensive) antique rods that I purchased came from Germany nearly 7-8 years ago if I vaguely recall. When I first inspected it, it was such a bizarre looking beast. The butt section weighed nearly TWO POUNDS and was made of oak I believe. It has a black linen cord grip and is around 4 sections and 12-15ft long (sorry, going from memory as I haven't looked at this rod in over 5 years ) and it is numbered under 150 (either 114 or 144 or something like that). This Salmon rod is well before the current Orvis numbering system. The butt cap is well marked and the line guides are large decorative agate lined guides. The rest of the sections are a light colored turned wood. Unfortunately one of the tips is short and a guide or two needs to be rewrapped but I've been hesitant to work on this beauty. My question is, does anyone know of any earlier rods than this one? I'll post a photo next week sometime as I dig through my collection looking for my other Varneys. Last Edited By: darrelll 05/10/2009 07:42. Edited 1 time.
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Posts: 352 05/13/2009 07:09	Darrell, this topic could really take off if you'll post good pictures. The current Orvis numbering system has nothing to do with the early rods. The very earliest of Orvis rods did not have serial numbers and did not have stamped markings. Those had a small green (1970s type movie) ticket glued to the reel seat/grip area; it was stamped "ORVIS" in black ink. You can imagine that they have not survived in most cases. They are now "unmarked" rods. The later stamped serial numbers and Orvis markings correlate vaguely to the invention of the patented Eggleston reel seat in 1882. This is where your rod may fit in. Gotta see pictures though. I've seen #17 and I have 2 or 3 Calcutta cane and wooden rods under #150. However, your description is based on recall. Not very reliable in many cases. Two pounds - maybe. Oak - not likely but probably ash. Decorative agate line guides, Civil War era and marked, low serial numbers are not consistent - time wise - unless the rod has been upgraded and sporterized over the years. Gotta see pictures. Dave - that link to last year's topic on collecting early Orivs serial numbers did not work for me. I suspect that the topic has been archived and is no longer on line? --Tom
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Posts: 772 05/13/2009 11:31	Tom - I've reposted. Dave The more I think I know, the less I know I know.
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darrelll	Forgot I had this Orvis rod	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 105 06/18/2009 17:54	tkerr7735 wrote: Darrell, this topic could really take off if you'll post good pictures. The current Orvis numbering system has nothing to do with the early rods. The very earliest of Orvis rods did not have serial numbers and did not have stamped markings. Those had a small green (1970s type movie) ticket glued to the reel seat/grip area; it was stamped "ORVIS" in black ink. You can imagine that they have not survived in most cases. They are now "unmarked" rods. The later stamped serial numbers and Orvis markings correlate vaguely to the invention of the patented Eggleston reel seat in 1882. This is where your rod may fit in. Gotta see pictures though. I've seen #17 and I have 2 or 3 Calcutta cane and wooden rods under #150. However, your description is based on recall. Not very reliable in many cases. Two pounds - maybe. Oak - not likely but probably ash. Decorative agate line guides, Civil War era and marked, low serial numbers are not consistent - time wise - unless the rod has been upgraded and sporterized over the years. Gotta see pictures. Dave - that link to last year's topic on collecting early Orivs serial numbers did not work for me. I suspect that the topic has been archived and is no longer on line? --Tom Sorry, I still haven't found my Orvis Salmon rod... but I forgot I had this lancewood trout rod... I'm selling this rod and it's posted in the classifieds along with more pics. My salmon rod had serial numbers written on the shafts. Can't wait until I find that salmon rod because as I recall, the butt section weighed 31 ounces if my memory is correct... we'll see...
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