Thanks in advance, Jack
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CT Trout |
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I was reading on the bamboo rodmaking tip website about planning and finish planning. I noticed a few people said they used a LN 9 1/2 grooved plane to take
the bamboo down to .003 and then finish with a LN 103SP . I contacted LN about the 103sp plane because I didn't see it in their catalog. They said the
plane comes with 3 insert plates that attach to the sole of the plane to adjust the mouth to 3 different sizes.. They also make a 103 with a tight mouth which
is also not listed in their catalog. I was wondering if anyone has used either of the 103 planes for finishing and could give me any feed back on it .
Thanks in advance, Jack |
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JimmyB11 |
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The 9 1/2 with the groove is an excellent tools. The scraper plane is perhaps overkill for the needs of the rodmaker. I have a bronze scraper plane with no
interchangeable soles but I don't use it that often.
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pvansch1 |
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Jack the grooved planes are very nice. Let me know if you want to take a look at one, we'll go fishing somewhere and I'll bring it.
Pete
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CT Trout |
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Pete, I have one of the LN 9 1/2 grooved planes and absolutely love it. I was more interested in the 103sp plane. Some of the guys on the rod servers list
seamed to really like the little plane for finishing rather than using the LN scraper. Lets still go fishing.
Jack |
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pvansch1 |
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I'm game for fishing. Maybe this weekend?
Pete
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CT Trout |
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This weekend sounds good. I'll touch base with you Thurs or Fri.
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HERMES2069 |
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Please purchase a Morgan Hand Mill
Forever Phil |
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Battenkiller |
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I have a 102 tight mouth. The mouth was so tight when I got that I had to take a file to it to open it up a bit. I have yet to plane cane with it, but it is an
outstanding tool. I took it to a boatbuilding course and the instructor was so envious that we chipped in and got one shipped to the school as a parting gift.
Even the newbies were getting cedar shavings you could read through. I can see how the 103 might be more appropriate for bamboo, but I've used mine for
everything right up to ebony and it works great without a hint of tear out.
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BigTJ |
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I have been using the 103 non-adjustable mouth for a few months, they are really great planes. All of my 9.5's are honed with a 45 degree bevel on the
blade for finish planing, so I honed a 30 on my 103's so I can use them for general work. They are really nice for cleaning up strips after splits, taking
the back sides off nodes, and, if I was still roughing by hand, they would be great for that. I have tried them for preliminary taper planing and I have found
I get tear-out with them. Don't know if it's the lower angle, or the fact that the non-adjustable mouth set to take .0015-.002 has a big opening and
that leads to the tearout, but whatever the reason I am not using them for final planing. For whatever reason i NEVER get tearout with the 9.5's honed to a
45, in fact they worked great to clean up the tearout I got with the 103's. Your experience may be different but that's what I found. I plan to
eventually pick up the adjustable mouth version of the 103 and give it a try. I might also try setting the blade bevel on my 103's at 45 but I doubt it I
still want a couple planes I can hog off material with and the 103 is perfect for that.
Some real real benefits of the 103 are the light weightness, comfort in the hand, and the fact that if my strips go "out of square" the narrowness of the plane allows me to tilt it more easily than a 0.5 so I can get "back" into square quicker. However this is a short-term benefit, as I am starting to get better and better at planing it's only the rare instance that my triangles don't stay at 60's any more. For final, final finishing my favorite is still the 9.5 with the groove. I only have one right now but I am going to get at least one more maybe two. When I'm doing my final planing I use the non-grooved to get me down within 10 thou and then I switch to the grooved plane. I set it so the blade is just below the shims by .0005 or so (not that hard to do by feel) it is just a no-brainer for final planing it works so well. I have a 212 and I like it but I just really like not planing the metal with my blades so I just use the 212 to scrape the enamel it works really nice for that. PS you can easily use the grooved sole planes to take all the way down to final, you don't have to leave .003. Either set the blade like I do so it's just below the shim, or set your forms to accommodate the extra .003.
Last Edited By: BigTJ 06/09/2009 23:00.
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CT Trout |
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Thanks BigTJ and Battenkiller for your help.
I currently use a LN9 1/2 w/ the groove and was just wondering if I was missing something on the final planing. John Channer gave me some simple advise, set the forms, plane a strip, measure the strip, reset the forms, finish planing the strip. I'll just keep using my grooved LN 9 1/2. Jack |
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