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JimP.fishnbanjosplace	Names on Rods		Lead	[-]
Posts: 22 06/04/2009 08:35	Tags : None As I peruse the catalogues and lists of rods for sale I often come upon one with the original owner's name on it. Obviously, if the rod is a Dickerson or, something that you better get while you can, this may not apply. Also, if the person is known or if you are able to find out about the person that might be desireable. But, in general, it appears a rod with a funny name of no import, like Jim Phillips, is marked down. How does a rod with a name wtitten on it affect your purchasing? And, do you have your name inscribed on rods you order? Best, JimP
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Flyman615	What's in a name?	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3257 06/04/2009 11:02	Personally, names on pre-owned rods don't bother me. In fact if done by the maker, I regard them as part of the rod's lineage and in most cases I don't try to remove them. For example, I have a 1939 Granger Registered and a Premier with the original owner's signature on both, applied at the Granger shop when the rods were being built. To me, it's a pretty neat and kind of historic feature. I don't feel this devalues the rods in any way. What bothers me more is when a previous owner "engraves" or rather crudely scratches his SSAN on a rod's hardware or on a reel. I just acquired a really nice, early Young/Orvis reel with a Social Security number scratched (very lightly, thankfully) on the foot and spool back. What in the world that really accomplishes is a mystery to me. Regards, Flyman
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quashnet		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2592 06/04/2009 11:26 Moderatus Muscae	I prefer a pre-owned rod that is inscribed by the maker with the owner's name. This indicates that the rod was not a casual or off-the-rack purchase. In all cases thus far, I have found that the owners whose names I did not recognize turned out, after some study, to be very interesting and intriguing people. My Summers 275, commissioned in 1985, has my name inked on it by Summers. If this decision lessens its value, then my executor will just have to cope with the problem. I suspect it will all turn out OK for my estate. Flyman is right; while a proper inscription on a rod or reel can be a joy, there are some owners who thoughtlessly destroy fine work by unskilled attempts to add a name. I once owned a highest-grade, raised-pillar Julius Vom Hofe reel that was perfect, except that an owner had deeply scarred a hard-rubber sideplate with crude initials deeply carved with a pocket knife. Eventually I literally had to sell that reel because the vandalism just bothered me too much. Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over 460 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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RonT1		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 519 06/04/2009 11:37	My 275 is inscribed "In memory of my father, who took me fishing", would like to be there when my three boys decide who gets it. On second thought, I will be... R
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Slate Drake 9		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 95 06/05/2009 16:35	I have 3 rods with a name on them, other than the makers. One is my name on a special rod I had built and the other two are someone else's name. So far, the extra weight from the ink hasn't affected the casting, the fish haven't commented and the guy that was talking to me on the stream the other day didn't seem to think that they made my rods look any less beautiful. In all seriousness, I got a good price on one of the rods (about 350 less than it goes for on the open market) because it had a name on it and the other one was probably reduced some because of it too. I actually refer to those rods by their names instead of their make and model. Just my 2 cents. Fishing with bait is like swearing in church.
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Rolf Jacobsen		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2140 06/05/2009 16:57 The COOLER	The previous owner's name does not bother me at all. As has been said, if nothing else, it adds a little something to the character and history of the rod. Brook Trout are God's way of reminding us everything is going to be alright.
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pcg		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2908 06/05/2009 17:04 Admin	I have a 2/2 rod that Banjo gave me some years ago that was in some need of refinishing. When I was finished rewrapping it and just before the rod was dipped, I inscribed it with black ink, "Banjo Wand." The rod is that meaningful to me, and I thought too that 50 years from now someone, somewhere, would scratch their head and wonder.
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JimP.fishnbanjosplace		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23 06/05/2009 17:09	"Banjo Wand". Now that is a wonderful story. Banjo, you will live forever in the annals of the History of Fly Rods and Fly Fishing!!! Thanks! JimP
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RStouff		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 132 06/05/2009 21:46	Harry Boyd put my name on the rod he built for me, which I didn't expect but am SO proud of. Native Waters
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firehole		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3938 06/05/2009 22:31 Local user	I have only a couple rods inscribed with owners name and having their names don't bother me one bit. The only rod I have with my name on it is my Sweetgrass 7'9" 4/5 3/2(My Avatar)since it was the first Sweetgrass out the door plus I think very highly of the " Boo Boys " who also signed it. Dennis
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BlackHillsBill	Okay, okay, so I'll never be up there in lights.	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2785 06/05/2009 22:41	Bill Abrams (Streamer) had my name printed on the tube label of the Dickerson 801610 he made for me. And Marcelo Calviello, a rodmaker I met on this forum who has been a good friend ever since, inscribed the rod he made for me "The BlackHillsBill" Specially made for my friend Bill Geyer. The Abrams rod is the best 8' 5 wt I've ever cast. The Calviello 7' 4 wt is the sweetest 7-footer I've ever handled. And these two true gentlemen are of course among the very best contemporary rodmakers. I puff up with justifiable pride every time I use their rods. Whoever become the rods' next owners after I am gone will just have to put up with the indignity of having the name of some obscure yet very lucky Westerner on their newly acquired rod tube or rod. I hope they will be as generous and accommodating about it as you. For, in a manner of speaking, we've all been baptized in the same waters.
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jz2		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 239 06/05/2009 22:57	I love the SF era winstons, many of which have the names of the original owner inscribed. What I don't like is someone who removes a name from a flyrod. Those folks remind me of a dog who has to be the last to lift a leg on the fire hydrant. They are destroying a slice of history for their own vanity.
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DriesVR		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 71 06/07/2009 10:42	I don't own any rod with a previous owner's name on it, but all my custom ones carry the name of my home town in Italy: 'Verona'. Don't know why I started it... but I am still doing it.
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cwood		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 603 06/09/2009 17:16	I guess someone has to disagree. I don't like other names on a rod. Not sure why, but it bugs me. I honestly don't like much writing at all. My least favorite is when someone inscribes a vintage taper used on a contemporary blank. Most makers use older tapers so I'm not sure why some put "Payne 101 Taper". It just takes away from the cane work and the individuality of the rod IMO. A makers name and maybe a serial number is all I like to see. A length and line wt. designation maybe, but that can always go on the tube, or by simply measuring it and casting it. Just my opinion. CWood
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uniphasian		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1997 06/09/2009 17:35 Moderator	jz2 wrote: I love the SF era winstons, many of which have the names of the original owner inscribed. I'm with you, Jim. I enjoy the sense of history that provides. It's like looking inside my grandfather's pocket watch and seeing the names of the watchmakers who have serviced it through the years. I'm currently in the process of trying to track down family photos from each of the previous owners of my house - I want to display them near the front door with mine included. - Uni
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darrelll		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 116 06/20/2009 11:37	I've had a few rods made for me and never wanted my name on them. I guess I was afraid that I'd want to sell the rods and if unfished, I could sell as new and with my name or anyone's would reduce the value to a used rod. While all my new rods are still unfished, I've never had any thoughts of selling them. I guess if you're someone of BFR importance, perhaps it could even add value.
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Duff.fiberglassflyro...		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13 06/20/2009 14:22	I have a glass rod by Russ Peak that not only has the original owner's name, but also his complete address. I feel it adds considerably to the rod, particularly since Mr. Peak's cursive writing was so elegant.
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recane1		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 220 06/20/2009 14:59	This may be a good basis of a collection. ONLY collect rods that have the owners name on them. I have been looking for so long for a standard to my rod collection. It would make no difference as to the maker, the length, the years that they were made, only that there is the original owners name on the rod. Gentleman, we just may be on the brink of a great rod collection. Aaron Wiener
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iwork2407		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 14 06/20/2009 22:44	I to have a rod with a lot of writing on it when I called the builder of the rod (Walt Carpenter) about the writing on the rod he told me that he built it for himself and that it was a proto rod. I think its great and it does not hurt the value of the rod it just adds to it. Just my two cents. Ray.
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