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 jcbff |
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Posts: 37 06/03/2009 15:35 |
I have read several times on the forum, Paul H. Young's own description of his Driggs taper. I guess this was a description he used in his advertisements.
Does anyone know how he described his Perfectionist taper?
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Posts: 6023 06/03/2009 16:00 the Canefather |
jcbff wrote: 
banjo
Fly fishing is my Quisisana (the name is Italian for "place where one heals one's self.") "...... SLG Visit my website about Bamboo rods... Fishnbanjo's Place |
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Posts: 1580 06/03/2009 16:26 |
Wow Banjo, this is great information!
Thanks for sharing. |
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Posts: 38 06/03/2009 16:57 |
I appreciate it Banjo. That's exactly what I had hoped to find.
John |
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Posts: 200 06/03/2009 19:02 |
Thanks, Banjo. I've been curious about that myself. The description for the Perfectionist says 2 1/2 oz. I wonder if they were really that light?
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Posts: 6026 06/03/2009 19:12 the Canefather |
Aransas wrote:  Martha Marie Young's is 1.51
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banjo
Fly fishing is my Quisisana (the name is Italian for "place where one heals one's self.") "...... SLG Visit my website about Bamboo rods... Fishnbanjo's Place |
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Posts: 201 06/03/2009 19:33 |
That's amazing in that it's lighter than graphite rods of that length. I've seen that photo before, but what's astounding is that both rods
look to be in perfection condition. Just think that Perfectionist was made over 54 years ago. Do you still fish with it?
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Aransas |
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Posts: 202 06/03/2009 19:47 |
Banjo, I also noticed that your Martha Young Perfectionist is labeled "H.E.H Silk". If I'm not mistaken, H.E.H converts to a 5-wt in the AFTMA
system. Interesting, because I know some people consider the Perfectionist to be a 4-wt while others use it as a 5-wt.
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Posts: 6027 06/03/2009 20:11 the Canefather |
The Martha Marie was a definite 5 wt and I no longer own it, the Perfectionist (Martha Marie Young's) is a 4 wt and I do fish it.............
banjo
Fly fishing is my Quisisana (the name is Italian for "place where one heals one's self.") "...... SLG Visit my website about Bamboo rods... Fishnbanjo's Place |
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Posts: 2589 06/03/2009 20:19 Moderatus Muscae |
...some people consider the Perfectionist to be a 4-wt while others use it as a 5-wt.
Some may be fours; others, fives. As with most (all?) of Paul Young's rod models, there were versions and variations. Often a model was made first in a lighter-weight version, and then later the rod model got heavier. I believe that there were at least two different versions of the PHY Perfectionist, one with a butt measurement of 0.260" and a heavier version at 0.275". This difference may be referenced in Bob Summers' Model 260 and Model 275 rods. The circa 1955 PHY catalog has a shorter and different descriptive text for the Perfectionist. In part it reads: "This is the most delightful and efficient rod in its weight class we have ever made. It is an all around dry and nymph rod and casts beautifully at from 15' to 60'. It hits its peak efficiency with the tiny late season flies and very fine leaders, in trained hands, it will execute curve casts of any size needed."
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over
460 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all
who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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fishnbanjo |
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Posts: 6028 06/03/2009 20:24 the Canefather |
I also own Dody Ford's Midge, if you read the section in the catalog you'll see the Midge is supposed to use an HEH line as well but note the Midge
weighs .24 ozs more than the Perfectionist and is 1'3" shorter and is marked for HHH lines in Paul's hand.
banjo
Fly fishing is my Quisisana (the name is Italian for "place where one heals one's self.") "...... SLG Visit my website about Bamboo rods... Fishnbanjo's Place
Last Edited By: fishnbanjo 06/03/2009 20:34.
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Aransas |
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Posts: 203 06/03/2009 20:57 |
quashnet wrote:Thanks, quashnet. Others have also noted that this is the reason for some of the differences seen in the tapers posted for PHY rods in the various databases. Regardless, Mr. Young designed and built some outstanding fly rods and anyone who owns one has a special part of bamboo history. |
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JimP.fishnbanjosplace |
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Posts: 31 06/11/2009 07:28 |
Thanks guys. My first Perfectionist was a 7/1/2' for 5 wt and so marked on the rod, purchased from Hoagy Carmichael jr. I loved how that rod cast.
Unfortunately, I no longer own it. Every Perfectionist I have seen or owned since has been for a 4 wt and seemed a little more "delicate", not as
nice a caster(for me). In a conversation recently John Pickard told me that there were two distinctive Perfectionist tapers, one designed for a 4 wt and the
other for a 5 wt. (and probably some variations of each).
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Posts: 46 06/11/2009 14:19 |
I have an Art Weiler version 5wt.....outstanding.
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ibookje |
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Posts: 1583 06/14/2009 15:14 |
The Summers 275 is pretty much the original taper of PHY's?
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