George Varney's Influence at Montague???

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Flykuni2		#81	[url]	[-]
Posts: 76 06/15/2009 14:23	Thanks, but it is PB sizing. Here are three examples of shots I sized on PB. I'm still getting the hang of working with digis. Interesting and fun, it's the modern darkroom.
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Housatonic Quill		#82	[url]	[-]
Posts: 780 06/15/2009 20:16	There seems to be a "t" in your code - which means that PB is transferring your thumb, which is all it took from your upload. (Now there's a sentence that somebody from 20 years ago would NEVER understand!). You'll have to start over with PB. In PB, just under the "Upload" box, you'll see a size selector panel, headed by "Reduce to" with a dialogue box. My bet is that you've currently got it set at 100X75 (the Tiny or thumb size). Hit the check mark and select 640X480. Now upload your photos to PB and follow the procedure shown previously. You'll still see a thumb shown on your album page, but now, when you left-click on the thumb, it'll transfer you into a full-scale 640X480 view. The more I think I know, the less I know I know. Last Edited By: Housatonic Quill 06/15/2009 20:20. Edited 1 time.
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Flykuni2		#83	[url]	[-]
Posts: 77 06/16/2009 12:17	Thanks Quill, I checked PB and found I was set on 'medium' upload, and changed it to your suggested size, 'large.' My question is still this -- once an image is edited to a specific size on PB, and it is say, 'small,' can it be re-sized larger when you change your mind on it? I'm not great on click on tutorials, sorry. Sorry all for taking this off-course, but perhaps it could help others.
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Housatonic Quill		#84	[url]	[-]
Posts: 781 06/16/2009 13:50	Nope - once PB has accepted your reduction instructions, you're stuck. To get any other size, you'll have to go back to your original and reload. The more I think I know, the less I know I know.
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darrelll	Varney at Heddon	#85	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 06/18/2009 20:29	I have a Heddon #10 or #14 I believe that was beautifully crafted including 1/8" cork rings. This is the earliest Heddon fly rod that I own. I was bowled over when I saw the rod and immediately had to own it. Especially since it appeared to be unfished and in mint condition. I thought it would have been made pre-WWI like the pre 1910 bait casters which also used the 1/8" rings. Could these rods have been under the influence of Varney? I guess I gotta dig out that Heddon rod now too... I find it hard to believe they would be using the thin rings in the 1920's when no one else was using the thin rings.
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darrelll	Geo. Varney Rod pics 9' 3/2	#86	[url]	[-]
Posts: 123 06/22/2009 17:41	Where's AJ Campbell... perhaps he's working on a 2nd edition, that would be fab! I took some pics today of my Geo Varney rod which is a 9' 3/2 rod. Needs restoration. The pics are not good as I forgot to lower my ISO down from 1600 when I was shooting some friends at dinner in a dark restaurant. Nonetheless here's a couple of shots. I already put away the rod for now, so I don't feel like reshooting at the moment, I've got other rods to photograph as I'm really trying to thin out my collection. I keep finding more amazing rods that I didn't realize I owned, such as my Marvin Hedge 7'1" or 7'2" competition rod with the drilled cork and the thumb grip. Inspecting it yesterday, it is a Model 50!!! This has got to make it one of the rarest Heddons I own. Back on topic... Here's the pics. Sorry they are so bad... Last Edited By: darrelll 06/22/2009 22:51. Edited 1 time.
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OldCanerods		#87	[url]	[-]
Posts: 73 06/22/2009 17:58	Flykuni2 wrote: hope this shot helps, thanks. Yikes! Is this rod marked as a Varney? I ask because I picked up an unmarked 8'6" rod a few years ago and haven't been able to figure out the maker. It's reelseat is exactly like your rod's seat. I've also noticed that the butt section is very light and have suspected that it is hollow-built. One of these days I'll weight it and post.
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TheMontyMan	Varney model...	#88	[url]	[-]
Posts: 145 06/23/2009 01:28	Darrelll, Your rod is not only a Varney rod, but it is an example of the Varney model. I can tell by those distinctive signature and intermediate wraps, and the hardware. This was Montague's top production model in the mid 1920's. Great specimen!! . . . Rex TheMontyMan
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darrelll		#89	[url]	[-]
Posts: 126 06/23/2009 10:44	TheMontyMan wrote: Darrelll, Your rod is not only a Varney rod, but it is an example of the Varney model. I can tell by those distinctive signature and intermediate wraps, and the hardware. This was Montague's top production model in the mid 1920's. Great specimen!! . . . Rex TheMontyMan Yes, I didn't even recall I owned this one... It's been fun trying to find some of my rods that still elude me. I'm also looking for my Kosmics and Izaak Waltons that I think I have a couple of each...
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OldCanerods		#90	[url]	[-]
Posts: 75 06/23/2009 15:37	Rex, How about Flyuni2's rod? Varney? Varney Montague? Montague? None of the above?
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Flykuni2		#91	[url]	[-]
Posts: 82 06/23/2009 18:38	Monty was good enuf to move the Q&A on my rod over to App. and ID. Check it there, believe we're identified.
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TheMontyMan	Moved to the Appraisals section...	#92	[url]	[-]
Posts: 150 06/24/2009 00:34	OldCaneRods, I thought it would get more attention in the Appraisals section, so I talked to Flykuni2, and hijacked his thread over to there at - http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/25523 Result... Definitely a Monty from the Varney era, based on a marked specimen with the same signature windings. . . . Rex TheMontyMan
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OldCanerods		#93	[url]	[-]
Posts: 79 06/24/2009 17:43	TheMontyMan wrote: OldCaneRods, I thought it would get more attention in the Appraisals section, so I talked to Flykuni2, and hijacked his thread over to there at - http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/25523 Result... Definitely a Monty from the Varney era, based on a marked specimen with the same signature windings. . . . Rex TheMontyMan Rex, Thanks, I didn't see that 2nd thread. So my next question is: did Montague make any hollow rods? I'm going to dig out my 8'6" Monty/Varney-era and weight the butt section. It "feels" a lot lighter than any solid cane butt rod I own. But maybe I'm just inhaling too much LA-LA-land air?
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Flykuni2		#94	[url]	[-]
Posts: 83 06/25/2009 14:06	If Monty was hollowing-out fly rods that early, it's probably where we'll find Judge Crater.
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TheMontyMan	Hollow-built rods...	#95	[url]	[-]
Posts: 159 06/26/2009 02:33	OldCanerods, I have not run across any reference to hollow built bamboo rods in the Monty line. They had a line of double-built rods, marketed under the Powr-Built trade name. Also, Chubb had a line of rods with a steel wire running down the center of the rod. They were described this way, "STEEL CENTER SPLIT BAMBOO RODS - Made from best selected Bamboo with a piece of finest tempered spring steel wire extending the full length through the center of the butt, joint and tip, and firmly cemented to the wood, making them springy, elastic, great casters, and practically unbreakable." I don't think the steel wire would make them any lighter though! . . . Rex TheMontyMan
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OldCanerods		#96	[url]	[-]
Posts: 82 06/27/2009 14:20	I've got a 7' or 7'6" rod labeled "Empire" that seems to be steel wired. It is the least flexing rod that I've ever owned. Even more so than the 6'2-1/4" (so labeled) Fallows 7 wt. I purchased this rod from Dick Spurr years ago and at the time he claimed he didn't know the maker. I'll need to dig it out and see if I've developed a better feel for the maker since I last played with it. Maybe post some JPG's if it's possible to be a Montague made rod.
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robcane		#97	[url]	[-]
Posts: 393 07/27/2009 13:51	I posted these photos on another thread sometime ago but thought I might add them here again. I've been told this is a Varney-made trade rod. It's 8-1/2' 3/2 marked Sagamore Iver Johnson S.G. Co. Boston Does it appear to be Calcutta cane? We few We happy few We bamboo brothers
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Gnome		#98	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2218 07/28/2009 08:51 King of the Gnomes	Rob, Nice rod and I do see a few of the burn marks that are indicative of Calcutta cane. Jeff
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TheMontyMan	Varney Era Montague Trade Rod...	#99	[url]	[-]
Posts: 191 07/30/2009 00:01	Rob, Your rod is a very nice example of a Varney era Montague rod. I identified this model for Flykuni2 a little over a month ago. Here's a link to the post - http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/reply/143333#reply-143333 As the other post indicates, one of the rods pictured is marked M.C. Rod Co. - Amherst, Mass. and has the same signature windings, double winding pattern at the guides, guide spacing and even the ferrules have the same welt and etching. This model was branded as the "Sagamore" for Iver Johnson, and the "Columbia River" for Abbey & Imbrie. I've seen a few other Sagamores as well. I have 3 rods that are very similar to yours. Two of them are branded the "Conway Special" for Marshall Field & Co., and the other is marked M.C. Rod Co. - Amherst, Mass. I love seeing these old Varney era rods! They don't pop up every day. . . . Rex TheMontyMan
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robcane		#100	[url]	[-]
Posts: 394 07/30/2009 09:45	Thanks, fellas. I received that rod as a gift from a friend whose father most likely fished with it up at Moosehead Lake, Maine in the 1920s. I had a couple wraps redone and it was re-dipped. It's in great condition. Handsome rod. rjj We few We happy few We bamboo brothers
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