Dear Pentalux,
I am curious as to which test you performed to cause the failure you have shown?
Thank You.
Scott
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Posts: 36 07/01/2008 23:43 |
Hi Scott - Was testing the limits of a hollow reel seat section which unfortunately failed actually at a point ABOVE the change from solid cane to the hollow
seat with A LOT less force than initially anticipated - as reference the handle was then broken to compare the relative force required to break it in the first
place. I will probably use this technique for the Catskills rodmakers challenge rod which initiated the idea for me in the first place however will NOT use a
burled seat as the grain needs to be very consistent I think for this to work best - will use a different epoxy too.... Also to note - will certainly NOT do
this with my standard rods as I run the cane to the end of the section as this is definitely a potential failure point but building a 3.6 oz WF6 is thus far a
true challenge for me. My S4 is 7'4" and is basically designed to cast a DT4 - it weighs 3.6 oz's complete.... - I have a ways to go on this
challenge rod for sure. Will you be entering a rod? Thanks for your question.
Best Regards, Rob P.S. - Here are a few more test pic's. 
butt section did not fare so well HOWEVER this was bending just the butt section all the way around into a circle too - the complete rod did not fracture or fail AT ALL when put under same stress.... 
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Posts: 536 07/02/2008 00:11 |
Rob,
Good luck and thank you for your explanation and pictures.
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Posts: 1133 07/04/2008 10:58 |
Just for everyone's information Rob's rod was one of six entered in the "Rod Evaluation" program at Grayrock last week.
The six rods were blindly evaluated by a panel of accomplished casters. The rod was the only one evaluated with the highest marks by all six members of the panel. May be someone that was more intimately involved with the program will chime in. Edit: I posted before reading all three pages of this post. I am not sure which of Ron's pentalux rods was evaluated. Can someone enlighten us?
Maker of light line nodeless bamboo fly rods
avardanis@sympatico.ca
Last Edited By: oldfishbrain 07/04/2008 11:03.
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Posts: 102 07/12/2008 11:09 |
...some of the best threads/pics I've read in quite a while... keep em coming!!... Thanks...
Bob |
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Posts: 6 08/07/2008 10:19 |
Hello Rob, has there been any development on your rods? I have been frequenting West Slopes web site, and I have not seen them show up yet on the available
list. I am curious when we would start to see some for sale, as I am still very interested. Susan
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Posts: 688 08/11/2008 01:27 |
Hello Susan;
Coming Soon  Just takes a little time to have the page built and do it right, think of
it like a mini website. Take Care!
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Posts: 1157 08/11/2008 10:26 |
Rick:
PM sent
Maker of light line nodeless bamboo fly rods
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Posts: 41 09/03/2008 20:51 |
oldfishbrain - Thanks for the notation on the Grayrock Gathering Rod Evaluation. Had hoped someone else might have commented but basically was emailed by the
person who tallied the evaluations that:
There were six rods evaluated and yours scored the best. Possible 25 points could be awarded each rod. Comments 1. 22/25 Elegant, wonderful five sided small stream rod. 2. 23/25 A quick little rod. This rod does everything you would want a 4 wt. to do. 3. 22/25 Quite flexible but with power. A rod I could fish small dries with all day but could cast an attractor or hopper. 4. 23/25 The rod just keeps working! 5. 22/25 I like this rod. The only area your rod fell down in was roll casting but everyone agreed it was not a fair test as we were on grass not water. That was an S4 rod and I will have it as well as others at the Catskills Gathering this weekend - Hope to have a Challenge rod too but not sure yet as only just glued the ferrules on today - first cast may be AT the CRG Friday... Should have more detailed information about the rod design and various models available soon at West Slope Classic Fly Tackle. |
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Posts: 43 10/24/2008 22:32 |
Last Edited By: Pentalux 11/01/2008 12:25.
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Will be @ Somerset Show w/Ramsey Outdoorstore | #31 | ||
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Posts: 52 12/13/2008 12:39 |
Just an update for Pentalux rods - will be at the upcoming January 23,24 &25th Fly Fishing Show in Somerset, NJ.
Finishing up two 7' 4wts cut together w/ identical node spacing, etc.. (finished blanks weights within .01oz of each other) Both cast on the quad flat but one is braced by the hex strips the other by the penta's - interesting results and they will also be at the show. Will have several rods available on Westslope site starting in January '09 - Will also have a model or two available at Ramsey Outdoor Store in Paramus, NJ. Thanks for looking! Pentalux Rods |
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Posts: 45 12/18/2008 19:26 |
Hope you dont mind Mr. Smith.... I gave you some press on my blog because I am in love with the concept you have going here. I will hopefully one day own one
of your rods. If theres anything wrong let me know and I will remove the blog post.
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Posts: 857 12/22/2008 11:56 |
That photo of the stress test on the tip section reminds me of Don Chen. He would do something similar at the Metolius Fly Fair with a full rod. We'd all
just cringe. I think he finally broke it after several episodes over time, but it definitely solidified my trust in the shear/compression strength of glue
joints and the integrity of bamboo fibers even when stressed way beyond any normal conditions. Your rod designs sound very intriguing. I'm always impressed
by the people on this board. The vision and precision that goes into your work is very inspiring.
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Posts: 438 12/30/2008 19:55 |
I would love to have a chance to cast one, some day. More bamboo power fibers; less glue. Makes a lot of sense to me.
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Posts: 66 06/22/2009 14:27 |
Want to thank those who have continued to show favor for my rods. I especially want to thank those who have purchased rods and placed orders as well as those
who have taken the time to inquire about other tapers not yet available. Thank you very much.
Finishing up a 7' 3" 3 wt dry fly rod with .045 tips... Also finally finished the first saltwater Pentalux. Its an 8 1/2 ft 9wt - wt. 6 oz. Was a love / hate relationship through the entire build but am very happy with the outcome. Here are a few of the T9...       Thanks for looking!
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What a beauty!!! We shall now put her through the Big Bone Test
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Posts: 78 09/29/2009 16:31 |
Thrilled to be included in upcoming issue of Japan's Fly Fishing Magazine - wish I could read it! Thanks again to Coach Duff, Rick Sorenson and Kenny
Matsuda - you guys are the best!! Coach - another rods on the way - let me know -- its lighter but stiffer...
 
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Posts: 2294 10/17/2009 09:07 King of the Gnomes |
Rob,
best of luck with your upcoming surgery Jeff |
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Posts: 3460 10/17/2009 18:04 Admin |
Pentalux, I'm an admirer--as you know!
One of us is crazy in fishing and forget time.
And the other take part only in the party at night. --Yoshikazu Fujioka |
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