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recane1		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 225 06/26/2009 12:13	About a year ago I was looking through the classified section of the board. At the time I had been consuming a great deal of my favorite beverage. The libation began to fog my mind a bit. As it turned out about a week later, I began to get emails from board members asking if I was still interested in the reel or the rod or book. I quickly apologized and began to send payments out. All of the sellers were very understanding and were happy to continue the business that I had inadvertently started. I ended up with some really great tackle that I had no use for, and I was really broke. The question is, Would this put me on the bad guy list? Oh, and by the way, again I am really sorry for what I did. Thanks for being so understanding. Aaron
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pcg		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3023 06/26/2009 13:00 Admin	This conversation reminds me of the cliche, The search for perfection is the greatest enemy of the good. BTW, there is no forum prohibition against references to eBay. We do not allow specific items that are being auctioned to be discussed, nor do we allow sellers to be named, and we don't allow forum members to post notices that they have a certain item up for auction. As noted many times here, those are legal Yuku prohibitions. But forum members themselves seem to have adopted this recent phrase, "the site that cannot be named." It's almost like an urban myth, and has taken on a humorous life of its own. It's fine to name eBay in its proper context. :-) Pat
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DriesVR		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 73 06/26/2009 13:20	Like you said Pat, it has taken on a humorous life of its own... I find it hilarious! I think it's hard to pass on the chance to use that phrase! (In the meantime I'm trying to build up my number of posts... unluckily people know where I live )
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Battenkiller		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 32 06/26/2009 13:31	Got it. I thought maybe someone had been burned on an e*** deal and this was the reaction to it. Not that that has ever happened before.
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splinters	number of posts	#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6 06/26/2009 13:54	Having been a pretty silent member of this forum I had better post this to start a track record. I have purchased a couple of items from this board and all went well. It seems that many members here are "collectors" of one thing or another to some degree. Being avid book and decoy collector for over 30 years there have been hundreds and hundreds of long distance transactions, and of those only small handful went bad. The $ amounts were considerably less than that of a rare reel or rod - but the sting is the same in that it is hard to conceive of the dishonesty exhibited in those few instances. Thankfully it is a rare thing, but it leaves a lingering taste and unfortunately comes with the territory. Keep good records and remember the great percentage of good transactions and the huge bonus of friendship that accompanies all of this neat "stuff" that brings us together. Its Friday and I am feeling good because I will be fishing tonight!
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oneculm		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 587 06/26/2009 14:28	I would agree with splinters that yes it does leave a bad taste especially when the amount is more than a little.What makes it worse is when you sell a person something or do work for them and they do not pay you or return the item if they are not happy. I guess as some have said live with it.
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HERMES2069	Non committal	#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 553 06/26/2009 14:35	I have bought and sold on this board. It is a classified add. It has a distinct advantage being a specialty interest site. Many instances, the so called expert, prove them selves dead wrong. I have had buyer say the checks in the mail. I stop the adds. They say, Oh I need a new roof or My wife found out and is going to kill me if I buy another rod. You have to accept the Classified adds as what they are. If you make the sale, you can feel good. Don't sweat the little things. Phil
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PYochim		#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 767 06/26/2009 16:08	I wonder if it would change things if one could add a reply to the items in the classified section. I can understand that the "powers that be" do not want it to become a pissing match. On my one negative experience, I called the guy out on the particular forum. I was contacted by a moderator and the situation was resolved. After all was said and done, I was tossed from that site but did not consider it a great loss. Last Edited By: PYochim 06/27/2009 09:01. Edited 1 time.
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pcg		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3025 06/26/2009 16:44 Admin	PYochim, until about a year ago, comments were possible on Classified posts. The policy was ended after a particularly egregious series of "hijacked" posts, where forum members made "witty," and in several cases, insulting comments about the item being sold.
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DrakeBob		#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1403 06/26/2009 17:16 Formerly Drake	I think quash... "Maybe we should work a bit harder at complying with the few simple rules presently on the books..." and Phil (hermes)... "It is a classified add [sic]. It has a distinct advantage being a specialty interest site..." said it best. I'm not sure what the "bad incident rate" is, but I'm guessing that out of the total number of transactions that are initiated, it's not large enough to justify an attempt to legislate behavior any more than has already been done, let alone put the admin and mods in the position of having to enforce same... which they will undoubtedly be asked to do. It is a classified ad section - nothing more, nothing less - on an Internet site with 5600 registered users and probably a couple thousand other sets of eyes that come to peruse and perhaps contact someone who is selling or wanting an item without even having to register if the poster leaves outside contact information. While we (and that includes me) would like to believe that the fuzzy, warm Little Forum That Time Forgot is home to nothing but the best of intentions, we really need to remind ourselves that this is the Internet; home to the anonymous, the instant expert, the less-than-scrupulous and set our expectations - and then our behavior - accordingly. It used to be broken; it got fixed. It's not broken now; don't try to fix it again. Bob Piscator Non Solum Piscatur
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mer		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3115 06/26/2009 17:33	Quash, DrakeBob: sounds like the simple solution would be "everyone act like an adult", no? You request pictures or more info on an item, at least acknowledge you receive the additional info. If you're no longer interested, say so. Both sides need to remember that there is "real life" outside this board and most people aren't spending every second here, they may pop in before going to work , at lunch or after work. So don't expect an immediate response to a PM or an email because the person may not have opened it yet. Regardless, as long as whatever the rules are, if they are easily found, clear, concise and evenly applied, that's the best that can be done. As Bob who is formerly known as "Formerly Drake" points out, its a classified ad section. Even people on craigslist get burned sometimes. This signature left intentionally blank.
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teter		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1341 06/26/2009 21:41	Wow. A couple of months ago, I sold 14 rods and four reels to members of this forum. I must have had a hundred inquiries total. Every communication and every transaction I had was civil and hassle-free (except for one rod that I myself damaged while packaging it; that rod was returned for a full refund). Every member I dealt with conducted himself as a gentleman. I'm not minimizing or questioning anyone else's problems -- maybe I was just really, really lucky. I prefer to think, however, that all but a minuscule number of our members are stand-up guys, as we say here in Brooklyn.
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czkid	Whoa!!! Nellie..........	#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4042 06/27/2009 10:49 Moderator	And you folks need to remember... that the classified section is holding on by a thread. Any problems and the management is destined to drop that portion of the forum. We had some problems a while back, and for the most part folks have behaved well since. I'm getting the feeling I may have gotten "stiffed" on one deal... but I can handle that on my own. This isn't a threat... it's a simple statement of fact. The one thing we do not want on the Forum are any problems... period. Thanks for Understanding, Ralph
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DrakeBob		#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1405 06/27/2009 10:56 Formerly Drake	Perhaps we should rename it The Little Utopia That Time Forgot. Piscator Non Solum Piscatur
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recane1	As my daddy said:	#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 226 06/27/2009 11:15	If it aint broke. Keep fixin it till it is. Aaron
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greg hall		#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 260 06/27/2009 11:46	As I understand it no money or goods changed hands and the prospective "buyer(s)" simply did not follow up. Over the years I've been a member here I've had similar events happen to me. Yes, it's annoying and if you really need to sell something it can be disappointing but, I don't think this problem warrants the owners or administrators taking any action. When the board first started a person could post without being a registered user. Then there was a spate of flaming and Clark made things so only registered users could post. There were only about 300 registered users at that time and the rule change really didn't prevent flaming though Clark could more easily identify the offending parties. We already have good sensible guidelines for using this forum. Implementing more rules is not going to correct bad behavior by a few folks. Given the number of registrants a few "no shows" seems pretty minor to me. If someone cuts you off on the freeway, call 911 and see what kind of response you get. Bob, make that "Boo Topia". (No offense intended towards the original poster) :>)) Last Edited By: greg hall 06/27/2009 11:55. Edited 1 time.
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rodzilla		#37	[url]	[-]
Posts: 131 06/27/2009 12:05	Yep, no harm, no foul. Move along folks, nothing to see here.
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Boo.fiberglassflyro...		#38	[url]	[-]
Posts: 164 06/27/2009 12:44	Yep, all has been said that needs to be said. Please lock it and put it away.
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