What weight line would this one be?
9', 3/2, 5.5 ounces
Thanks in advance,
9', 3/2, 5.5 ounces
Thanks in advance,
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Posts: 432 08/29/2007 01:36 |
I would guess a #6. My Granger catalog does not show your rod, it lists two 9 foot, 3 piece Aristocrats, the (GA9050) 5 0z., and the (GA9053) at 5 3/4 oz.
Based on many F.E. Thomas rods in this size that I have owned, a #6 seems likely.
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Posts: 15 08/29/2007 07:18 |
booman,
thanks for the info. btw, this is not refering to the one for sale on this forum. I found another for sale, but was listed at 5 1/2 ounces, hence my question. |
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Posts: 2189 08/29/2007 09:35 |
It's probably a 9050 anyway and I agree, a DT-6 should work just fine. Flyman
Regards,
Flyman 
"No one on his deathbed ever said, 'I wish I'd spent more time at the office'."
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Posts: 16 08/31/2007 16:16 |
In Gierach's book, "Fishing Bamboo", he refers to a Granger 9' 5 1/2 ounce as a 9052 and thought it may be a 6 weight.
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Posts: 1053 08/31/2007 17:07 |
The 9052 grade Granger was made for tournament casting. The 9 footer did indeed weigh 5 1/2 ozs.
The original Granger 9052's were designated Specials. They evolved into the Premier GT9052. A Granger Favorite GF9052 was also made. I'm not sure if it was a tournament grade rod, but was built as a 9' 5 1/2 oz. rod. I would bet you still have to factor in the weight of the reel seat. Mr. Granger was a champion tournament caster! Can't speak to line weight as I have never handled this particular grade rod. This info can be garnered from Michael Sinclair and Dick Spurr's book Colorado Classic Cane. You may wish to purchase a copy if you find Grangers to your liking. Bob
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Posts: 17 09/02/2007 09:49 |
thanks bobeegee,
that book is now on my list of books to purchase. |
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Posts: 1 09/02/2007 10:12 |
My 1941 Granger catalog recommends 6wt DT for all 9050's, and 7wt DT for all 9053's. There is, however, one variable to calculate... use the line
weight that works best for you and your cane.
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Posts: 2200 09/02/2007 14:51 |
Gentlemen: Here's a shot of the only Granger 9052 I've seen. It's basically a 9053 with the grip and reelseat from a 1941 7030 to save weight. The
rod is a Tournament Premier and also dates from circa 1941. One of the more rare rods in my collection.
 Regards, Flyman
Regards,
Flyman
"No one on his deathbed ever said, 'I wish I'd spent more time at the office'."
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Posts: 18 09/03/2007 11:55 |
Flyman,
Thanks for the pic of your 9052!!! Were all 9052's made with a full wells grip? Were they a seperate line of rods, or were they also made within the different lines (Deluxe, Special, Aristocrat) of Granger's? The rod I am thinking of purchasing is a Wright McGill Aristocrat, 9' 3/2 that is labeled as weighing 5 1/2 ounces. The label is a hand written piece of paper the original owner (elderly gent) had attached to the tube. The rod is an Aristocrat with a half wells grip. Did WM make Aristocrats in 5 1/2 ozs.? And if so, would that make it a Tournament? Thanks everyone for your help so far! 
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Posts: 1061 09/03/2007 12:16 |
The Granger Aristocrat 9050 was not made or designated as a Tournament grade rod, but was used often for tournament casting.
As stated above, if you add the weight of the reel seat (approx. 1/2 oz.) to the 5 oz. for a 9050, you have a 5 1/2 oz. rod!! Bob |
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Posts: 2202 09/03/2007 12:19 |
As bobbeegee wrote, the Goodwin Granger Tournament rods eventually were made/cataloged in just the Favorite and Premier Grades. Since the one in my collection
is the only one I've seen in 35+ years of collecting Grangers, I really don't know if the "hammer handle" grip (not really a true full Wells
since it's elliptical in profile) and 7030 s/b reel seat were on all Tournament rods of that era or not.
However, it makes sense to me that grip/reel seat combination would have saved a good amount of weight over the "standard" 9053. Tournament casters wanted all the weight (power) in the cane and not in the grip and reel seat. Finally, as has been noted above by Inspector Cloozoe and others, your rod is probably the standard 9050 taper and would have weighed 5 1/2 oz. after the installation of the Granger patented uplock reel seat. Check your rod's ferrules. If they are 12/18 (64ths) it's a 9050. If they are 13/19 it's a 9053. FWIW, I am not aware of any Aristocrat grade Tournament rods or 9052's in the Wright & McGill era. Regards, Flyman 
Regards,
Flyman
"No one on his deathbed ever said, 'I wish I'd spent more time at the office'."
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Posts: 1062 09/03/2007 12:27 |
P.S. The GT9052 Premier and the GF9052 Favorite were advertised at 5 1/2 oz., "being an exact weight", not a weight class.
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Posts: 26 09/20/2007 23:44 |
First, thanks everyone for the info!!
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Posts: 1113 09/21/2007 11:06 |
Circa 1938. The patented reel seat was a Granger patent, only acquired by Wright and McGill.
Bob |
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Posts: 27 09/21/2007 12:07 |
Thanks Bob!!
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Posts: 34 09/30/2007 15:04 |
I have a question about a rod available to me (not by anyone on this forum).
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