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 Buck Henry |
My First Waterhen Bloa |
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Posts: 136 01/07/2008 22:10 |
Hey gang,
Well, my Waterhen skin finally arrived from the UK and I just tied up my first Waterhen Bloa. I just can't get enough of these North Country Spiders! Cheers! Buck Atlanta 
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moregrayling |
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Posts: 709 01/08/2008 01:37 |
buck,
nice fly. personaly, I'd try to go for a smaller head. have you tied in the hackle at the tip and at the same time as the silk? if not, try to do it that way. also, try to finish the fly a good bit farther towards the eye; you need only about 1/2 mm to ty off the hackle and putt two or three two-turn whipps on. do you use a whipp finisher? I found it helps a lot. also, I like the hackle to stand up a bit more, to have a bit of a "kick"; yours is slanting backwards a bit, as if pushed in that direction by the head. the body, now, the body looks great, the dubbing is sparse as it should be. far better than my first efforts. I hope you didn't mind me giving you a few hints... below there is an example how I ty mine these days. it' on a partridge L3AY #14. best from krautland, christian 
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Posts: 760 01/08/2008 08:07 |
very nice one for a first try and some excellent pointers from Christian who knows how to tie these spiders as you can see from his picture.
try to be very sparse with the hackle. do you use a bobbin for the silk Christian? I sometimes have problems to unravel the Pearsalls silk. which one do you use? |
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Posts: 710 01/08/2008 12:59 |
maruoff wrote: do you use a bobbin for the silk Christian? I sometimes have problems to unravel the Pearsalls silk. which one do you use? 
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Posts: 24 01/08/2008 15:53 |
Nice bobbin Christian! Impregnated or vanished?
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Posts: 711 01/08/2008 16:29 |
Watti wrote:
parabolic! |
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Posts: 137 01/08/2008 22:19 |
Christian,
Thanks so much for the tying tips and I really like the way your fly looks. I will give it a go as you suggested and let you know how things turn out. PS: love the bobbin too! I just got ahold of the new Wasatch micro-tube bobbins made for tying with Pearsalls silk. The maker sent me one each of the metal tube and the ceramic tube versions. Both are very smooth and feel good in the hand. But I will always love my original Matarelli midge bobbin! Thanks again for the help and guidance, Buck Atlanta |
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Posts: 1307 01/11/2008 15:22 |
Buck,
Christian gave you good advice when he stated to tie the feather on while starting the thread. It's a whole lot easier to do that with thread waxed with that shoemaker's wax I sent you. It's got the right amount of tackyness to grip the feather and hook and not allow the whole mess to turn on the hook. I only wax about three inches with that wax and the remainig thread I wax with straight bees wax...unless it's calling for the black cobbler's wax of course. Oliver Edwards' DVD on Wet flies demonstrates how to do that. If you don't have that one you should think about getting it. It's really good. I'm no expert but I hold the feather on the hook with my thumb and start the thread from the back side pinched between my first finger and the hook. With practice it becomes second nature. It really cuts down on the size of the thread ball in front (like Christian said) and gives the fly a much cleaner line. |
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Posts: 1308 01/11/2008 15:24 |
Christian,
Cool bobbin! Did you make that yourself or buy it? If you made it, what is the tube made from and how did you bend the two bobbin fingers? ..with steam and patience? |
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Posts: 712 01/12/2008 05:32 |
DrLogik wrote:
doc, I did not make this, it was part of a set (see pic below), the gift of a rodmaker-friend. the tube is hollow-hexagonal bamboo, with nickel silver at the ends; in fact, everything is hexagonal (the fingers too, but dunno how he bent them) except the two nickel silver parts, which are round. there's also tweezers, a dubbing needle cum half hitch tool and a lead pencil marked "0' 6'' #F". best from "krautland", christian 
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Posts: 767 01/12/2008 08:09 |
the best online instruction for tying spiders is on hans weilenmanns website. do a google search for his website (www.flytier.nl I think) and see under
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Posts: 768 01/12/2008 12:55 |
a few of my recent spider creations as examples as well. as you can see adjust hackle length and amount of hackle fibres to create different profiles.
   
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Posts: 25 01/12/2008 14:41 |
Here is a pic of some Spiders I tied for a friend... Sorry it's a little bigger, but you can see the flies closer.
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Posts: 714 01/13/2008 04:33 |
nice shiny hooks watti!
best, C |
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Posts: 770 01/13/2008 09:34 |
I'll never forget when I first got a glance of Dirks flybox. Couldnt believe it...it it were x-dozen really nice classic spiders!
How many Wojnicki rods do you have by now Watti? any new friends in the collection? nice hooks indeed. tried to find them in the UK. we should order a truck-load together. christian? |
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Posts: 50 01/13/2008 09:41 |
Stunning is the only word I can come up with for those flies.
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Posts: 26 01/13/2008 15:27 |
Thanks!
@Marcus: no new Wojnicki or other new friends at this time, maybe soon...
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Posts: 715 01/14/2008 01:24 |
maruoff wrote:
don't count me in on the alec jackson hooks. I neither like the shape, nor the bright finish. I'm sold on the L3AY; bronzed, nice bend and short(ish). dunno what I'll use when my stocks run out... best, christian snipe & purple 
hare's lug & plover 
winged waterhen clyde style 
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Posts: 1310 01/14/2008 18:30 |
Those are some seriously shiney hooks.
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Posts: 1291 01/14/2008 19:47 |
There's a line of reasoning by some people that chrome / silver colored hooks may be less noticeable to the fish when the fish look up at a fly since the
light reflected off the hook may look like light reflected off the water, whereas a dark hook (bronze, black, etc.) will be outlined against the sky and simply
look like a hook. In addition, some of the chrome / silver coloring may show through the silk and / or dubbing, looking like light reflected of the side of an
insect.
Don't know if any of this is true, but it sounds reasonable to me. Cheers and Safe Fishing Bob |
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