Cant wait to see the rest
mmmmmm More shop time, my girlfriend is not going to be happy
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nick50 |
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Awesome
Cant wait to see the rest mmmmmm More shop time, my girlfriend is not going to be happy |
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Mark Shamburg |
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As promised, Monday found me in the machine shop finishing up the spool.
I started out by removing the chuck and grabbing the part by the hub that was left from the previous step with a collet. The other end of the spool is supported by a brass insert I turned up and the tail stock. I didn't get a picture, but I checked the run-out before I started cutting and it was less than .0002". Not bad for just slapping the part in the machine.
Getting ready for some serious stock removal. This 1/4" wide tool will get me most of the way.
Because of the large amount of cutting area in contact with the part, the 1/4" wide tool wanted to chatter pretty bad if I stuck it out too far, so I had to switch to a narrower tool to get the rest of the way to the middle. This is just a 3/32" parting tool.
Next the compound is turned to 94 degrees to make the 4 degree taper on the left side of the spool. I had to take the handle off the X-axis feed to be able to turn the compound handle.
A cutting tool with a radius ground on the edge is used to make the final cut.
I was expecting the part to chatter at this stage since the wall is only .055" thick, but the angle and the small rim on the outer edge went a long way to stiffen it and chatter was pretty much non existent. I ended up getting a beautiful finish.
The compound then gets swung to 86 degrees to make the 4 degree taper on the right side of the spool and a mirror of the previous tool is used to finish the cut.
To cut the radii on the edges of the spool I used a corner-rounding end mill. It's not the ideal tool and it required some hand work with a file and sand paper to blend it in perfectly, but I didn't feel like spending two hours at the grinding wheel trying to make a custom tool for such a non-critical feature.
Finally the lathe work on the spool is finished!
Now here's the part where I cheat a bit... Since the spool gets a hex shaped pocket and a gear profile cut directly into it I turn to CNC. I know many here consider CNC a four letter word, but I'll wager most of them have never run one. Just because you don't have to crank a handle doesn't mean you can eliminate the machinist! Here's the spool in the CNC machine, held in a set of soft jaws being indicated in. These operations have to be aligned to the center of the spool very closely.
I didn't get a picture of most of the process as it was flooded with coolant the entire time it was running, but here's the first tool.
This end mill cuts the hub down to the final size. Then a smaller end mill comes in to cut the hex and rough the tooth pattern. A third smaller end mill then comes in to finish the profile. And now we have a finished spool.
I spent a few hours yesterday at my small lathe at home sanding then polishing and buffing all the aluminum pieces. By the time I was done buffing I was covered in a thick layer of greasy black soot. Once I cleaned myself off I took them to the anodizer. The face plates will be black anodized, while th spool and rings will be clear anodized. I didn't get the drag knob done and I held the foot back from anodizing as I want to engrave it first, but they will go with the next batch. I spent today working on some of the various small pieces which I should have done by Friday. If all goes well I will be doing some field testing at Grey Reef on Saturday! Mark |
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thegubster |
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Mark,
I've been following this. You're quite the craftsman. The photo-essay is appreciated. I grinned at that first picture and runout of less than a couple tenths....geeez!! Jeremy....(really jealous of your tools!) |
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kermit |
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I put the call out on January 9th about making reels.......Hoping anyone would be willing to share information on reel making. Well, seems Mark Shamburg
answered the call. We all look forward to your progress. Thank you Mark. Can't wait to see the final product.
KERMIT |
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jayhake |
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I spent a very informative and fun day in the shop with Mark yesterday watching him machine parts for the reel. What a cool experience! So much different than
making rods. I will say this too, this reel is really going to be a beauty, Mark is truly a craftsman.
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bow river |
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pictures do speak a thousand words , this is just something to watch you make this fine looking reel , i love how you did the gears , i keep checking this
thread as it's so interresting , thanks for sharing this with all of us
Richard
Check out my site for vintage reels & rods , guided float trips on canada's # 1 best trout river http://bowriveradventures.googlepages.com/home |
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flyman219 |
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Cool thread Mark, thanks for letting us in on your project. I'm very new to the world of mini lathes and I'm curious as to what your spool is being
driven by in the headstock. Is there a collet of some sort back there? Thanks!
Mike |
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Mark Shamburg |
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Mike,
The spool is being driven by a collet holding the hub that later gets turned into the clicker gear. Mark |
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Mark Shamburg |
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Well, I got the first prototype of the reel finished on Thursday last week. I was ready to fish with it over the weekend, but unfortunately we don't have
too many places to fish a reel this size in Colorado, and the Yampa river where I did fish was certainly not one of them.
No biggie, there was some scraping going on somewhere in the reel. I took it back apart, found the culprit and today I fixed it. Now it works great. Here are the first pictures.
I'm not 100% finished with it but it's good enough to start testing! Some of the things I still need to do are work on the clicker. The gear I machined into the spool does do something, just not yet. I'm also going to make a new drag adjuster knob, I think the diamond knurl just looks too industrial. I'm going to see how I like a wide straight knurl. I'd like to engrave my name into the flat spots on the foot. Once I get that done I'll polish up the S-handle, foot and the drag knob then get them all anodized. And there is one small piece still to be made, a small nut that will serve to not only cover up the end of the draw bar, but also to keep the drag adjuster knob from screwing all the way off. Then, finally I will turn down the pillars so they have the sculpted look as in the pictures. But for now, I think I will head to Wyoming this weekend and fish it! Mark |
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flyman219 |
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Mark that looks great! You will get lots of compliments on that fine piece of work.
Mike |
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ttrotter |
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Very nice , Mark! I've really enjoyed following this thread. This couldn't have been your 1st attempt at this!?
Regards, Tom |
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akalooker |
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Mark Shamburg wrote: Hey Mark, Thanks for sharing the continued progress of the making of your reel, I've thoroughly enjoyed seeing it all come together into the assembled reel. I'm just thinking out loud here. When staring at the pics of your reel, all that flat surface area on the drag adjustment knob, and for that fact, the "S" handle, just seams to be screaming for some engraving. After seeing the beautiful engraving work completed by Bill Oyster on his latest renditions, that would look so cool matched up with one of his masterpieces sporting all of his intricate work!I know, I know, just my mind wandering to the wild side.
Kindest regards, Terry
"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be." - John
Gierach
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Holireels |
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Nice Job......................I purchased an original Vom Hofe salmon reel and trying to replicate it for my Spey fishing rods. Drag parts are a little tricky,
but just adds to flavor of making a reel and using something you made to fish with. What type of drag did you design? -Holireels-
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Brian Shaffer |
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I would love to see a shot of the insides.. the guts.. to see whats going on in there too!
Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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Mark Shamburg |
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Holireels,
The drag system is similar to that of an Abel with a huge 2.5" disc, but it uses a much different clutch system I designed. Brian, I'll get some pictures of the Guts of it soon. And to answer an earlier question of yours, I've started giving some serious thought to downsizing it for a 4/5/6 size. Mark |
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Brian Shaffer |
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Mark -
The insides are Abel influenced... hmm.. but with your clutch system. Drawbar ? I hope to first in line on the 4/5/6 model. In fact, I will even field test one for at no charge! Ha ha ha .. but serisouly.. I will. Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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Holireels |
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Mark,
Good idea on the drag......larger OD is definitely better than most of the designs out there. I just made my brother a reel for X-mas similar to yours, but in a 2.5" OD size. Reel is a 2/3 wgt and only has a click pawl for a drag. My spool looks like yours with machined gear. I machined a delrin clicker on my small CNC mill and it works great. It is very smiliar to what Waterworks/Lamson uses on their Purist and Sage reels. Look forward to seeing pictures of your design. I'm struggling a bit on Vom Hofe drag. I've avoided tooling ($$) thus far, but think I am going to have to have some to make some of the parts that are pretty small. Almost thinking of making a draw-bar style as well to simplify the design and have instant drag engagement, which the Vom Hofe design does not have. |
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Brian Shaffer |
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( Bumping this thread in hopes to see the guts. )
We would all love to see the insides if you would give us the pleasure. Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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Mark Shamburg |
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Here's a quick teaser.
That's a rendering of the cross section of the reel. I'll try to shoot some shots of the guts of the reel tonight. Mark |
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Brian Shaffer |
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Any inside shots of your masterpiece yet Mark ? Are there 18 detents within the drag knob ?
looks good .. Brian (pic ddc-1 is a little different design, no ?)
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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