I taught everyone this knot and I thought I would share it here : The Pitzen Knot
best fishes - Brian
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Brian Shaffer |
Favorite Tippet to Fly knot ? |
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I recently had a good conversion with a fly tying group about tippet to fly knots... and I found that the reason most people were breaking off on anything
other than a clinch or an improved clinch was that they were just simply tying the knot wrong.
I taught everyone this knot and I thought I would share it here : The Pitzen Knot
best fishes - Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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flyh20 |
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I use orvis knot. It's really quick, easy and compact. It never failed... my hook usually bends before the knot fails.
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asullivangarner |
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We continue our discussion of knots for fly fishermen with a method of tying the Eugene Bend using
hemostats developed by Bruce E. Harang so as to make properly tying the knot in fine tippet material much easier.
Insert a closed pair of forceps through the second loop and rotate the closed ends of the forceps around the standing line three times. This automatically also wraps the second loop around the standing line three times (Fig.2).
Now grasp the tag end of the tippet with the forceps and pull the forceps out of the second loop thereby pulling the tag end of the tippet through the second loop (Fig. 3).
Pull the tag end until the end loops of the knot are small enough that they cannot slip over the hook eye. The knot should be snug, but not tight, and should be located several inches above the hook eye (Fig. 4).
Wet the knot to lubricate it and protect the monofilament from frictional heat damage. Then with a smooth steady motion, pull the standing line until the knot slides down the standing line to the hook eye and seats. You will know the knot is properly seated when you hear and feel the knot click into position. In addition, a properly tied and seated knot will have the tag end forming a very pronounced V with the standing line (Fig.5).
The knot works best with monofilament lines of about 12 pounds breaking strength or less. It also works better with soft lines than with hard stiff lines. By using a pair of forceps (hemostats) to assist with tying the knot you will find changing flies with very light tippet and tying with wet hands to be far easier and the cause of many fewer impolite words on stream.
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Brian Shaffer |
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Hmm... I've used the Orvis knot. It is kind of a close relative to the Pitzen knot. I like it ... its strong and easy to tie.
That Eugene knot is kind of throwing me. Have you had any troutble tying it Andy ? Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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asullivangarner |
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I tie it because it is easy, with cold hands in the wind...
I find tying a knot, like tying shoes, easier done than said...
Only you use the forceps to make the turns and then grab the tag with the forceps and pull it through the loop..., clear as mud, I'm sure. Andrew
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Brian Shaffer |
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I got it.. the tag end was throwing me off.. it slipped three times before I got it to tie correctly.
I believe I might have learned that one before under a different name. Ever use the Turle knot ? (not me, too old school) Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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pmag |
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I use a granny. It gives the fish a sportin' chance.
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asullivangarner |
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I like eugene a lot, glad you got it, but never heard of the turle...
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gt05254 |
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Turle is used EXTENSIVELY on up-eyed salmon flies. http://marinews.com/Turle-Knot-193.php
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Yep, on small ~< 18's, other wise, I tie the "worst knot ever", |
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Boo |
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Eugene knot is all I ever use and have used it for several years. You need only to wrap the loop around the standing line 3x's, no more. It's easy to
tie and I've never had a problem with it. Yet, I'm surprised it's not more popular. I've showed to several people and they kind of shrug...it
really is the best tippet to fly knot. http://206.210.94.83/assets/recommended_knots/pdf/fhf_knot_eugene_bend.pdf
Last Edited By: Boo 04/07/2008 10:48.
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gaddis |
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I have always used either an Improved Clinch or a Tweed Clinch, with the Tweed Clinch getting used most of the time now. I don't care if someone's
favorite knot is 5% stronger than somebody else's. If you can't tie the knot in your sleep, it's not a good knot for flies.
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bobbeegee |
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Hey Gaddis,
Is that Tweed Clinch a secret English fly fishing handshake?
Seriously what's a Tweed Clinch? New one on me. Been using the ole Improved for years. Bob |
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gaddis |
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Well Bob, you start by running the end of the tippet into the hook eye then around the shank and back out through the hook eye (sort of like putting on a
neck tie). After you've done that you then proceed as if you were tying a regular unimproved clinch. It tends to keep the hook in line with the tippet
rather than hinging.
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gofish60 |
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Big enough hook eye-Trilene knot
small hook eye- improved clinch. gofish |
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BigBluegiller |
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I like either the Duncan Loop or the Palomar knots. depending on whether or not the fly needs to move freely or not.
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mmorris236 |
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I used to use the improved cinch knot but recently have just used a cinch, easier to tie and I have never lost a fish on it, including bass to several pounds.
I have tried palomars and orvis knots but am just to dang comfortable with the old standby. It has worked well for 35 years, why change now?
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Berry Point |
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On up or down-turned eyes I use the Harvey knot . I think it's easier to tie than a Turle and you can do it in very low light. The video shows 2 loops but you can also do it with 1 loop so long as you pass the tag end through about 5 times on light tippet. The only time this has failed for me was when I passed the tag end through backwards. |
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Zenkoanhead |
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No votes for the Uni-knot? The only knot I can tie without my magnifiers on. Don
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Sal Fontinalis |
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Don, I had the same question. I use the uni-knot for just about everything including my line to leader connection up to 5wts. It's a slim knot and holds
up well. Easy for me to tie and much easier than a nail knot.
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thegubster |
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Zenkoanhead wrote: Don,
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