The two reel models look very similar. Frankly, I like the drag knobs on the early Fs better than the smoother knobs. But the Gallatins are newer, I believe.
Is newer better? What are the differences between the two series?
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ATH F series vs. Gallatin reels
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 spruce grouse |
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Posts: 2344 04/08/2008 13:35 Immoderatus Britannicus |
Generally speaking the F series are (imho) more 'collectable' and therefore more 'desirable' and I would certainly prefer an F series to a
Gallatin, there was a lot of discussion about whether the F series were better built but I do not believe that there is much substance to that. As for one
being a better reel ... well if the collectable side is not important it could be that a Gallatin at the right price is the right choice.
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esopus32 |
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Posts: 6 04/08/2008 17:14 |
I have an F2 and a Triangle 1 and there is a big difference in the drag. The F2 has a very smooth drag capable of being very tight to no drag at all. The
Triangle 1 [ Dutch Reels ] on the lightest setting is way too tight. Anyone else find the same problem with the Triangle series? Any comments would be
appreciated. - Joe -
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Posts: 2565 04/09/2008 10:22 |
". . . it could be that a Gallatin at the right price is the right choice." --Ken M 44It arrived today (4-10-08) and is even better than I hoped, more elegant. The drag adjustment is an easy finger-tip matter with the knurled knob. The Gallatin 2 is an excellent fly reel, which ought to be lots of fun fishing.
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Posts: 2349 04/09/2008 12:58 Immoderatus Britannicus |
Sir Kenneth of Hereford is a fine judge of reels (women, wine, and other basic stuff of the good sporting life). Since our earliest VWB days, I have never known him to be mistaken about such thingsAah Bill ... 
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Posts: 987 04/10/2008 22:49 MO/ARK Trout Bum |
My clicker rubber botton piece would never stay in place.. i wedged a indicatater tooth pick in there and she stayed clicking real good.
I should have never sold that reel - it was all silver and balanced great with my im6 winston TMF. Brian
" Just once, I wish a trout would wink at me. "
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Posts: 16 04/12/2008 05:22 |
Guys, I feel something is overlooked here. I am from Holand, and can shine somewhat of a light. The original F series is an Ari 't Hart designed reel, but
the Gallatin was the first reel designed by Thorkild Damm from Denmark when he took over Ari's busines in the midnineties, together with the manufacturing
licenses of some time proven classics, as the F-series is. Ari was no longer entitled to produce the F-series from that moment on and when he joined Ari 't
Hart International, which is a brand name of the CNC company of Enev in The Netherlands, he therefore designed the new Triangle I and II models for the newly
formed Ari 't Hart International, which was named Dutch Reels from 2000 or so. The F-series still ran at that time, but were produced by Thorkild's ATH
design company - but from Denmark, together with the Gallatin models. The Gallatin was meant to be an entry model to the Danish production line, as these
F-reels always have been rather costly. To expand the business, Mr. Damm added this Gallatin, which is definitely Ari-inspired, but fact is that Ari had
nothing to do with it. The Gallatin was about 30-40% cheaper then a "F" reel.
The main problem with the Gallatin -it's a nice reel design though- is it's lack of rigidity of the backside of the frame. Both the F's and the Dutch Triangle are thicker and stiffer. Also the manufacturing tolerances are not quite up to F and Triangle standards. Especially in the USA the Gallatins are however highly regarded and obviously heralded as Ari models, fetching prices that bring a smile to a Dutch face. By the way- the drag tension of Triangles and Rounds can be adjusted! Please send me a mail and I'll explain how - it's a 10 minute job and you can do it yourself! |
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Posts: 2569 04/12/2008 09:38 |
Thanks for clarifying this somewhat murky corporate history, Dutch Wim. Keeping people smiling, after all, is an onus I regularly but gladly bear. Imagine my joy, for instance, when I learned that an Edsel is only sort of a Ford. Let's hoist one for that great Dane Thorkild Damm, who has made me the owner of a damm ath. To a backslid Lutheran it's sort of like getting Saint Paul filtered through Soren Kierkegaard. Gotta go now, someone wants to see my bridge, and it's in Brooklyn. Spruce, work on it, try harder: you may find some way yet to repay me for my help.
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Posts: 2656 04/12/2008 20:43 |
Well, I can speak only for my personal experience with the F-series reels. I've owned an F1 and F2 for over 20 years.
Despite a recent post which labeled my particular two reels "butt ugly", I find them to be wonderfully designed and a pleasure to fish. The drag, as alluded to in above posts, is smooth as silk and infinitely adjustable. Since I am now headed into my dotage, I'm glad I bought my ATH reels when I did and will continue to fish them with unabated enjoyment. Just my $.02, which is admittedly decreasing in value as I write this. Best, Flyman 
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Posts: 2575 04/13/2008 09:20 |
Scott, thanks from a contented Gallatin guy to an F-series aficionado of long standing: If we're both happy with what we've got and what we got them for, let's just keep fishing them until someone makes us stop. I don't mind playing second fiddle in my choice and running the risk of being called derivative. And the wordsmith who called your reels "butt-ugly" has probably spent too much time behind the lead dog to have much of an eye for aesthetics. Now what do you reckon Spruce has decided?
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Posts: 996 04/13/2008 14:20 |
BlackHillsBill wrote: Bill, I already have an early Rio Orbigo that goes very nicely with a couple of rods. I was curious about the Gallatins since they look so much like the F-series
reels. I think I'll hold off on any more ATHs unless the right one comes along at the right price.
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Posts: 2363 04/14/2008 03:43 Immoderatus Britannicus |
And the wordsmith who called your reels "butt-ugly" has probably spent too much time behind the lead dog to have much of an eye for aesthetics.Amen to that. Scott I have never seen an early decent condition ATH reel that was not a sensible buy (at the right price) even if only for the investment view. As for the aesthetics - OK one man's meat, etc. but I regret not owning many of the ATH reels that I once had in my collection - most were limited production runs, unusual colours, etc and included a full set of the F series (with early numbers), about 10 years ago they were fairly easy to find and at not exorbitant prices, now I see the prices at around 400% up on what I was paying and still think that they are good value. The ideas on most of the reels still do not look at all dated to me and the 3 ATH reels that I kept and use regularly perform faultlessly. I do still have a penchant for the Aras series simply because I prefer the non wire lineguard models and my only solace is that the money raised from selling the other reels went into some very good rods that I still enjoy. Some ATH reels can certainly be described as 'quirky' but that only adds to the interest. |
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Posts: 7 04/14/2008 20:23 |
Ken, I agree with the quirkiness (sp?) of the reels. In my opinion they are reels that are separated pretty far from most other reels in their design and
there is a liberty the maker took to want to design something that was functional but so removed from anything else - throwing tradition out the window - From
time to time, that is a good thing.. I remember walking into (the only) fly shop in Norway in the 80's and seeing the ATH reels - outrageous and silly I
thought then. Now I wish I picked up all those reels with my harde earned money instead of buying graphite rods...Fortunately I caught on soon enough and have
a few I will never part with. ..
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