My new Spitfired LHW Hardy Perfect What do you guys think?

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seabass14	My new Spitfired LHW Hardy Perfect What do you guys think?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 140 05/14/2008 22:32	Tags : None Just arrived today and I am very pleased with the reel. About 6 months ago I also posted pictures of a St. George Jr. that I also own that is bright. I would like peoples comments on this reel also. I am curious what your thoughts are on the age of the reel. Do you think it came from the factory this way or was it shined up after the fact. Was there a special edition of the perfect that came bright like this? and in LHW? Any comments would be appreciated also related to what you believe the current value would be of this reel. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post. Thanks, Seabass And for the finally, the new perfect with its look-a-like cousin the St. George Last Edited By: seabass14 05/15/2008 09:59. Edited 1 time.
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lazydogs	My new Spitfired LHW Hardy Perfect What do you guys think?	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 129 05/14/2008 23:36	I can't say when it came from the factory, or how it came, but I can say that you have a very pretty set o reels there. My keyboard is about to short out from the drool on it, especially since I'm also a southpaw
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customline		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 35 05/15/2008 03:21	Seabass, I'm not expert but here's my 20c... To me it looks either 'original', old Hardy Perfect Spitfire or then its standard Hardy Perfect that has paint removed and then polished. There are two things which tell me that it is not the later Spitfire (Hardy Perfect Special Spitfire Limited Edition reels) which was targeted to Japanese markets. One is that I've been told that those were RHW only and another is engravings on the reel handle side. Your reel has different ones than those for Japanese markets. -Jukka
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spey		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 98 05/15/2008 05:05	Both reels are fake. The reel one the photo is a Hardy Perfect Special Spitfire Limited Edition for the Japanese markets. They made some of them in LHW. On the St. George Jr Replica they changed the line guard to a agate on. Bothe reels has the paint removed and then polished. Spey
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pcg		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1506 05/15/2008 08:44 Admin	You don't mean fake, you mean altered. The two reels are genuine Hardys that have been refinished.
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castafly		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 294 05/15/2008 11:11	Didn't the seller of the reel on eBay indicate the finish was removed and the reel polished with a clear finish applied?
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seabass14		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 141 05/15/2008 11:52	castafly wrote: Didn't the seller of the reel on eBay indicate the finish was removed and the reel polished with a clear finish applied? The seller did indicate that the finish was removed but this was done prior to his purchase of the reel. I purchased the reel thinking exactly what he had disclosed. Upon my inspection of the reel however, I have a difficult time thinking that a reel can be stripped of the finish with all the bearings, agate and such assembled without causing some damage or leaving some of the finish somewhere on the reel. The seller did mention that there was a clear finish applied by him after he received it. But in our email exchange he mentioned that the guy he bought if from told him that the finish removal was done in England and that there is only one way to remove the lead finish from an assembled reel. So, I guess my questions are really more as follow: Is there a way to strip the leaded finish off of a reel like this without damaging the components? Has anyone ever done this or have you just heard about it being done? Through the many comments that I received about my St. George most people felt strongly that the finish was too good to have been stripped off after the reel had already been leaded. In fact, most felt that this reel was a "prototype" that was never intended for resale. Basically the reel should have not been sold with out the finish but somehow made it out of the Hardy factory with out the lead finish applied. Since the finish of this perfect is very similar to the finish on the St. George, is there a possiblility that this reel made it out of the factory without the finish.on it? No one should take these questions as anything other than exactly that. I am just trying to figure out more about this reel and I am in no way trying to say that the seller was not honest or correct. I feel very much that this seller is top notch and was very open in communicating with me about the reel. But the question still stands that the reel was this way when he received it and I just can't think of a way that this finish could have been removed without leaving more of the lead finish on it. I have my thoughts about the reels and regardless of peoples comments I think it is a stunning reel and I am very pleased with it. I just want some of the reel guys that know much more about these reels to give me some feedback. Thanks, Seabass Last Edited By: seabass14 05/15/2008 12:24. Edited 2 times.
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MFRS		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 32 05/15/2008 13:58	My book say the winding plate places this Perfect to 1946-66 and reintro from 1978 to 95(?) (second edition of Fishing Tackle-A Collectors Guide by Graham Turner). I have not heard of the leaded finish being used in the 1946-66 period or after, right after WWII lead was probably hard to come by. The enameled finish or paint finish was probably started then ( spitfire wid-drum's were produced in this period by JS I read) and this finish may be removed quite easily with appropriate stripper, I will leave this part to the experts. If I were a LHW fisherman, like Seabass14, I would be thrilled to have a true unaltered LHW. You can enjoy the drag of the Perfect in the, much sought after, LHW. The fact that true LHW are very pricey, such as yours makes them valuable to every other lefty. Last Edited By: MFRS 05/15/2008 14:00. Edited 1 time.
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Piglegs		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 104 05/15/2008 15:24	I think your Perfect reel is a beautifully refinished 1950's enamelled model as it has the same markings on the winding plate as my own LHW 50's vintage; If you are wondering how refinishing can look so well done, the second pic is a refinished Special Perfect: edit: Seabass, one other thing you should look at is the retaining screw on the spool - if it is the original, it should have an arrow on it denoting the direction of thread for spool removal - if you look at mine, you can just about make out the arrow on the screw: Last Edited By: Piglegs 05/15/2008 17:02. Edited 1 time.
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troutbumwannab		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 127 05/15/2008 16:13	I personally think you picked yourself up a very nice reel! Original or enhanced, she's a genuine Hardy and the Spitfire finish is beautiful! Congratulations, and enjoy!!!
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bow river		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 489 05/16/2008 08:30	dan who in all truth really knows for 100% for sure , what we all know from your pictures is that you own a couple very nicely done hardys , i myself like the looks of them , better then some reels i have seen all scratched up or the finish chiped off , whats neet is both are LHW and they don't pop up for sale every day , great little trout reels , bring them with you in aug when you come out fishing with me on the bow so i can have a good close look at them , Richard Check out my site for vintage reels & rods , guided float trips on canada's # 1 best trout river http://bowriveradventures.googlepages.com/home
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turtledoc		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1896 05/16/2008 08:53 Moderator	Spey - There actually was a short run of Perfect reels a few years back (I've seen 3 or 4 examples sell) that were also made for the Japanese market and had a finish with the entire reel "in the white" vs just the winding plate. Seabass's reel is not one of those (they had curved logos), but just thought it was worth noting that there are reissue all bright perfects that exist that came that way from Hardy's. I think Seabass's Perfect is a finely refinshed 1950s era reel that anyone shoudl be happy to own (that is anyone that winds with their wrong hand) Regarding the St George, I am no Hardy expert, but when that reel first came up I corresponded with a gentleman in teh UK who I do consider an expert on Hardy reels and was informed that this reel was "likely" from an order of bright reissue St George's being made for the Japanese market where the deal was not completed / fell through, and the reels were not intended to be sold. That said, I am of the opinion that Seabass's St George left the Hardy factory the way it looks in the above photos, but that it was not intended to leave the factory at all, and that Seabass and anyone esle lucky enough to buy one of these down the road has some cheeky fellow to thank mark B
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spitfired kid		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17 05/16/2008 10:07	This question is best addressed to Floodtide - he will answer all your queries about these reels. As usual he's never around when you need him, does anyone know where he is these days? Nice reels by the way but somehow I don't think Floodtide would necessarily agree with all the opinions expressed so far. Spitfire Kid
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bulldog1935		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5689 05/16/2008 10:13 Bulldog1935	castafly wrote: Didn't the seller of the reel on eBay indicate the finish was removed and the reel polished with a clear finish applied? when you spend your money, you're the only one that needs to be happy with the result. some people have opinions about everything. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 05/16/2008 11:02. Edited 1 time.
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seabass14		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 142 05/16/2008 11:00	bow river wrote: dan who in all truth really knows for 100% for sure , what we all know from your pictures is that you own a couple very nicely done hardys , i myself like the looks of them , better then some reels i have seen all scratched up or the finish chiped off , whats neet is both are LHW and they don't pop up for sale every day , great little trout reels , bring them with you in aug when you come out fishing with me on the bow so i can have a good close look at them , Richard, I will bring these along in August for you to see. Man I can't wait for that trip. My thougths were the same as yours in that I think this one looks pretty cool with all the finish removed and since it is left hand wind I couldn't resist it. Add that it is a 1950's era reel and the agate is perfect, I just couldn't resist.
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bow river		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 490 05/16/2008 12:32	dan like you , i'm can't wait to see you and bob in aug for the fishing trip on the bow , we will have some fun switching cane rods an ol reels , i can't wait to see what Bob brings along , now so you know i'm a old horse trader from way back , i might just try to deal you out of one of them reels LOL you done very well on getting them reels dan , a nice set and you should hang onto them for a long time , one thing we all know is this '' these ones were made in england '' them days are now gone , your reels will only go up in value as in a few years everyone who ever fly fishes will know the story about hardy and imho will be after the england made reels Richard Check out my site for vintage reels & rods , guided float trips on canada's # 1 best trout river http://bowriveradventures.googlepages.com/home
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