Would those that own or have cast the subject rod please give me a rundown on your experience and thoughts? Degree of parabolic, usage (ie stream size/fish
size etc.), idiosyncrasies, are items of interest.
Thanks,
Ralph
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Posts: 215 06/29/2008 14:16 |
Ralph,
I'm not entirely sure about "Parabolic" but would definitely call it "Progressive" in that I could feel it flexing at least down into the area just above the Butt or Winding Check however, I have a very badly damaged casting shoulder and can no longer make the longer casts (75ft of line - and more, ) that might really flex the rod taper and demonstrate the strength so that I could feel the flex under the grip. Let me re-phrase that ... I can make those cast with this rod but will have a very short fishing outing that day and for the following few days ... I'll be too sore in my casting shoulder. On mine I found that a Wulff TT 5wt, which may not bring out the "parabolic'ness" of the taper, but, for me it means sufficiently long casts without much shoulder involvement. My "guess" is that a WF line or anything with a heavier design than the TT lines would flex the rod more and the parabolic aspects would show through. In summary, I can cast just as far with this rod as with an 8ft rod and still have it feel more like a 7'6" rod ... easier on my shoulder than an 8ft rod, which, I just can't use much anymore. (  but even at that, I'm in less discomfort with 7ft rods and
shorter casts, enabling me to fish for up to two hours)
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Posts: 961 06/29/2008 16:56 |
I received my Pickard 795 about 10 days ago and I hadn't been able to cast it because I have been on crutches (no weight on broken leg and foot). Okay, this week the doctor put me in a walking cast and I can get around on one crutch. So after reading Ralph's post I decided to limp out in the yard and give the 795 a few test casts. Wow! I am impressed. I used a Cortland Peach 5 DT. The rod feels very light in hand and the grip was very comfortable. I started flippin line and worked
out about 40 ft. The rod felt like it was flexing into the butt and I could have thrown more line. The line followed the rod and I was able land the line
where I wanted to. I then started to make shorter casts and the rod continued to perform. All casts landed the line softly. I would describe the speed as
medium. I was able to speed it up and also slow it way down on real short cast.
FFBill
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Posts: 3502 06/30/2008 19:23 Moderator |
I'm curious... was it the fact that I had this topic on Fishing Classic Flyrods that caused it to not be read, or do folks just not know John Pickard's
rods??? The Summers 275 topic has gone on "forever" so to speak. Or does the difference say volumes by saying nothing?
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Posts: 217 06/30/2008 19:36 |
czkid wrote: In that one isolated, particular comparison, the differences are so great ... one is a soft 4wt (to me) and the other a strong 5wt (to me) and to price
point difference is nearly $2,000.
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Posts: 3503 06/30/2008 19:46 Moderator |
Ken; You make an interesting point... there seem to be legions of 7'6" rod users, but relatively few 7'9" owners by comparison. Myself,
I've never been a big 7'6" fan, given the rods that I've cast... but the few 7'9" rods cast made more sense to me. I've got a
couple 7ft rods that are perfectly usable, but the 7'6"ers seem to languish in my racks.
It will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from folks. Ralph
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Posts: 2787 06/30/2008 20:02 |
Actually, a few years ago I inadvertently settled on 7'9" 5-weight rods as my all-around fishing favorites.
Although I don't own a Pickard 795, I do own a Carlin semi-hollow, a Charles Daly by Gene Edwards (OK, it's a 7'10") and a Granger Champion with 21-inch "companion butt" by Yorktown5. All are genuine 5 wt. rods and have become my "go to" trout rods for most situations. I'd love to try John's 795 as well! Regards, Flyman 
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Posts: 964 06/30/2008 20:07 |
A couple things - I have a few 7'6" rods, but in 5 weights I prefer my 8 foot and 7'9" rods. I think these rods are more flexible in
differnet fishing situations. But it seems a 7'6" rod brings more money than a comparable 7'9" or 8 foot rod.
Summers rods - I have a Summers Midge that I love. My friend has a Summers 275 and I have a Pickard 764. These rods cast the same. I think over time John's rods will appreciate, but it will take time. I (my opinion) don't think Bob's rods are two or three times more valuable tan John's. Would I rather have a Summers? Yes, but I can't afford the market price and to get one from Bob takes 4 to 5 years. Where as with John's they cast like Bob's but the prices are reasonable. I now have three Pickard rods - 764, 795, and 806. I'll enjoy these rods and maybe one day, 4 years from now, I'll also be able to fish Bob's 856 and 275. Bill
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Posts: 502 07/01/2008 08:31 |
I've owned many,many 7'9" flyrods and have found this particular length,along with 6'9" to be a must try whenenver I am exposed to one.
Call it a quirk. My favorite graphite of all time is the G Loomis 7'9" 2wt IMX. Dying to find another one someday.
I've often mentioned my quirk in discussion and found that several highly respected rodmakers believe 7'9" to be the Holy Grail of flyrod length, ie being the perfect span to utilize the parabalum to its fullest. I currently have a 7'9"s from DJ Duck, MarioWojnicki, John Gallas,Winston, Leonard, Payne, Hans Schlecht, and a one off from Gary Howells. That said, I've seen the Garrison and Young Tapers from numerous makers and the spectrum went from 4 to 8wt! Having the luck to cast several originals I can tell you the rod should be a smooth, effortless 5wt rod that loads right into the grip from about 15' and carry 60' with little effort on the part of the caster. Most errors in this taper tend towards the heavier side, making these rods very functional 6wts.
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Posts: 245 07/02/2008 08:01 |
Someplace back in the archives maybe 2-3 years ago, there was a fairly lengthly discussion about the Pickard 795. Don't know if its still in there. I
found the 795 to be full flexing, easy to cast, with a hinge about a foot down from the tip, and another above the grip, could cast off the tip with a DT4, but
DT5 brought out the full character and ability of the tod. Tremendous fish fighting ability. I wouldn't call it a power rod, more lite and lively but
easy to cast long or short. Yes I would call it parabolic - nothing like a Jenkins GA79 (as an example). John builds outstanding rods.
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Posts: 468 07/02/2008 12:48 |
I've been using a Pickard 795 for 2 seasons now and it is definitely one of my "go to" rods. "Glassorcane's" comments pretty well
sum up my experiences but I also utilize it as a 6 wt. if I need to cast big bugs (hit the cicada hatch in PA a couple of weeks ago and the 795 was absolutely
ideal for tossing # 8 patterns and fighting big fish). The 795 does like a heavier reel (I use a Young Beaudex) for balance. I have found that using Hardy
Lightweights, etc. make it feel tip heavy and tiring but with a couple of extra ounces on the backend its a nice feeling all day fisher. John
does build outstanding rods! I truly enjoy all three of mine.
Mike
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Posts: 282 07/07/2008 14:21 |
Just got back after a week in Catskills. Used Pickard 795 on Delaware. WOW!!!. Best for all on this river. Feeling when you land fish is something you have to
try.
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Posts: 1697 07/07/2008 18:08 |
There is a lawn cast Pickard 795 on Coldwater Collectables site for under 1100.00, whch has to be the buy-of-the-month......
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Posts: 2 07/07/2008 21:17 |
Just got back from a two week vacation fishing Brown Drakes and Hexes. This rod became my "go to" rod for my night fishing. I used a Cortland 444
peach line and it matched perfectly for me on both short and long casts. This rod has plenty of power to keep big fish out of the sweepers, and handled fish up
to 20" with no problem. I have several Pickards, and find that I fish them more than my other rods. They just suit my style and type of fishing I guess.
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