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reelmaker		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 52 06/13/2008 16:14	C1.....First rule of playing a big salmon in heavy water....Keep your rod tip up.....that way the rod helps to wear out the fish...if you don't fight a fish like this hard you will never land it in this kind of water...a whole different thing than mid summer and a much lower river......and wading to follow a fish in this kind of heavy current is impossible and would be very dangerous....if you notice in this other picture...there is no shore...the canoe is tucked into the bank to try and find just a little bit of slack water to help play out the fish and find a place to land it....if you stepped out here it would be into several feet of moving water...
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robcane		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 343 06/13/2008 17:04	That's a hell of a tale and a fish of a lifetime. Condolences as to the rod. Maybe if Marcelo builds another rod for you, he can salvage some parts from the broken rod to keep its spirit alive. rjj We few We happy few We bamboo brothers
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Chartist1		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 130 06/13/2008 17:50	Ok, would an impregnated rod held up better in this battle?
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Boonut		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 259 06/13/2008 17:50	reelmaker wrote: C1.....First rule of playing a big salmon in heavy water....Keep your rod tip up.....that way the rod helps to wear out the fish...if you don't fight a fish like this hard you will never land it in this kind of water...a whole different thing than mid summer and a much lower river......and wading to follow a fish in this kind of heavy current is impossible and would be very dangerous....if you notice in this other picture...there is no shore...the canoe is tucked into the bank to try and find just a little bit of slack water to help play out the fish and find a place to land it....if you stepped out here it would be into several feet of moving water... You don't think it's better to put the rod at an angle and use the butt of the rod?
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Chartist1		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 132 06/13/2008 18:15	my approach to that battle would be lowering the rod angle and adjusting the reel drag. If I got broke off, so be it....I would be crushed to lose a great rod.
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robcane		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 344 06/13/2008 20:48	Mr. Chartist, Do you fish for Atlantics, or other gamefish of that size and power? Also, please note that the photo shows just one split second in an epic battle. Somehow I trust that Reelmaker knows what he is doing as far as fighting a fish goes. From what I gather he's been down that road before. I'm having trouble seeing the point of sharpshooting the way the fisherman fought the salmon. No one did anything wrong... not the rodmaker, not the fisherman, not the fish. The rod broke at the end of a heated battle -- battle with a truly great salmon. Sometimes that's the way it goes... I'll leave the autopsy to those who are much more knowledgeable than me. I would suggest that we're just fortunate someone shared the tale with us. rjj We few We happy few We bamboo brothers
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stonedfly	Great story	#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5 06/14/2008 22:33	What a great story. It's unbelievable that you actually landed the fish. When you think about it, life's best memories often come at some cost. We never want to pay, but as you said you'll remember this fish and this fight forever.
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alistair59	Super Story!	#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 130 06/15/2008 08:05	Paul and Marcelo, What fine storytelling, thank you for taking the time to tell it. Tight Lines! Alistair Last Edited By: alistair59 07/15/2008 12:20. Edited 1 time.
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Utah.damascusdoubles...		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/14/2008 21:32	Just now checking in after a long absence. Wow Paul quite a hen. Unfortunate that the new rod didn't survive, quite a fish tale though. Glad to hear she's being replaced. Got your trout real out this morning for an upcoming trip to Montana. I'm hoping the Clark Fork has receded and clarity is better. Take care. Mike
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salarhunter	Epic fish	#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/15/2008 18:20	Paul - an exquisite sort of sadness must have accompanied the elation of landing such a magnificent fish. I would give anything to have felty that strike after the initial rise...It will all be made right and were I the rod builder, I would be pleased and proud that my rod took the strain long enough for you to land that fish. All fly rods are complex compromises and what made your rod cast so beguilingly may have been its undoing when pitted against 30 pounds of bright Atlantic. For those who have not felt the incredible power and determination of an Atlantic Salmon that size, any rod and any reel might possibly wilt in the face of it. A bright fish of that size in big water is incongruity itself when taken on fly tackle - and even more so on a hand built custom cane rod. The rod angle did not break the rod and Paul did not break the rod and the wonderful builder did not build a fatal flaw into his creation. I think the rod was broken just at the same time that great fish's will was broken, rendering the battle fairly claimed by either. Kudos to both the rod maker and the reelmaker/fisherman and thansk for the illustrated story. Andy
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orange caddis		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 184 07/17/2008 21:51	how do you know the rod builder did not have a fatal flaw in his creation?
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orange caddis		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 185 07/18/2008 11:06	i don't, i was just asking a question. i do find it interesting that there is 4 pages of this and no one mentions the fact that the rod was a salmon rod and it broke the first time a fish was on it. just because someone puts there heart and soul into something does not mean that it might not be flawed. either way there is no need to get so defensive as i was only asking a question not placing blame.
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HexaMaineiac	Qué lastima!	#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 501 07/19/2008 01:44	I had the opportunity to cast that rod at last winter's Superboo gathering. Light, powerful, but powerful with feel and smoothness. Everyone that cast it was impressed with it. Too bad it broke, but at least it was with a salmon on the line and not a fall on a slippery rock or a tip in a door. Henry A line in the water is hope extended. Catching a fish is hope affirmed. Paul Quinnett, Pavlov's Trout.
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oddsnrods		#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 109 07/19/2008 11:54	Great fish ,great account, great pictures, nice rod. As a result I think that I will resist the temptation to hollow build rods.The explosive nature of the breakage lower down into the butt section leads me to - GUESS- that hollow building -MAY-, not always, be as strong as solid building. Again, IMHO, for most fly rods, any gain in lightness of hollow building is offset by the extra effort in making and the risk of breakage, plus the weight in removed material is probably negated if the fly line is on the reel rather than on the water. There is no real way to test how a hollow built rod will stand up to a prolonged fight with a big fish (this from one who has slugged it out with a 25lb chinook salmon on a solid bamboo rod from a boat once). The fly reel used with the rod at the start of the thread seems quite large, and I am wondering if any hollow building weight gains are noticed in the hand when fishing. Rod-makers are not perfect... 'over-cooking' ( excessive heat treating) also ..MAY..make the rod sections more brittle, as I have found out to my cost. This maker/artist/maestro- (me)- poured his heart and soul into a dainty fly rod once, only for the owner to find the tip kinked slightly after a mornings fishing. The rod was very light, and I had been watching him try to pull the tip of the flyline through the tip ring by pulling it down towards himself, thereby making the tip stress . I could have said it was his fault, but he is a pal. Just because I make bamboo rods does not mean I float above the ground in a haze of artistic worthiness (although I could easily be persuaded...), as it was, I made him a new tip. Last Edited By: oddsnrods 07/19/2008 18:03. Edited 1 time.
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kinzua		#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 07/19/2008 15:31	30 lbs. salmon on a 7 wt rod - that's a lot of fish for ANY 7wt.
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salarhunter		#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 07/21/2008 22:19	I suppose only because I know the fisherman and actually fish several of his creations. Knowing him and knowing the care with which he built his reels it is my assumption that Marcelo, likewise intimate with Paul's work, would have striven to match that level of craftsmanship in his rod that he built for the reel maker. I doubt he left anything to chance. Having taken fish of that size on similar tackle, I can easily see an unseen flaw in the materials being found out in the course of such a contest. So no, I cannot say with scientific certainty, but then, that was not what I meant to convey. What I know is that great care and passion and skill went into that rod and that it broke under the circumstances would give me absolutely no pause to have another made by the same hands.
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